On 2017-07-20 18:58, Paul Koning wrote:

On Jul 20, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Ray Jewhurst <[email protected]> wrote:

The DECPro 3xx series (same era I do believe ) is much more interesting than 
the Rainbow IMO. It runs with either a Fonz or a Jaws (PDP-11 on a chip) It's 
OSes are POS, a RSX-11M-PLUS derivative, RT-11, 211BSD and Venix, a Unix System 
III. Good news is there is an old emulator for it called xhomer which you can 
get at xhomer.isani.org. Also, it does build well on Ubuntu. Not sure on other 
distros. There is also a fair amount of documentation on Bitsavers. It may be 
worth looking into.

xhomer is an ancient fork of SIMH with a license problem (hard conflict between 
the SIMH license on that version and the GPL intended to apply to the PRO 
mods).  I've tried to see if this can be cured by replacing the GPL, so far no 
luck though I did get one or two encouraging responses.  It would be good to 
merge it into SIMH.  Failing that, I suppose a new implementation would (done 
within SIMH) could be done; the PRO isn't all that hard and the Technical 
Manual on Bitsavers has most of the answers.

GPL can be such a headache.
I could perhaps be persuaded to help out some, if you go for reimplementing this, Paul.

I've been wanting to add to the PRO emulation, stuff like Ethernet, or the 
obscure PC3XC 4-line UART card, or PRO-380.  But right now there is no place to 
do that.

The single most annoying thing about the PRO (well, of course there are so many with this machine) is the crippled state of the PRO-380. Here you have this nice J11 CPU, and then they still have the same support chips as on the 350, meaning you're running at a slow speed, and with P/OS you cannot use the split I/D-space, nor the supervisor mode.
Not sure if it would work ok if you did your own software.
Also, since the device drivers for the PRO specific things seems to have gone missing, I have no idea if it would be possible to build a new version of P/OS which could take advantage of the -380 hardware, but I've been peeking a little in the RSX sources about this a few times...

If only DEC had made that machine like a normal PDP-11...

        Johnny

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