> On Jan 25, 2018, at 6:57 AM, Clem Cole <cl...@ccc.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 5:25 PM, Zane Healy <heal...@avanthar.com 
> <mailto:heal...@avanthar.com>> wrote:
> 
>   I’d like to backup to a simulated tape drive on the one emulated VAX.  The 
> largest drive on my Alpha is 50GB.  I’d prefer not to have to span tapes. :-)
> ​Another thought...  what are you running the emulator on?  Is it a 
> UNIX/Linux flavor of some type?   I ask because there might be another 
> solution that could work a little better in practice, although you'll need to 
> pull together some pieces.      The problem is the bits in my brain WRT to 
> VMS are 20+ years old and I've forgotten the details so you'll have to do 
> some homework.
> 
> At one point, I remember that some VMS folks in ZK3 (CJ Coppersmith seems to 
> stick in my head by I do not remember) were messing we putting a the UCB 
> sockets library into VMS and were somebody ported the Berkeley rcmd(3) suite 
> on VMS from Tru64.   I'm not sure if how much of that library or which 
> commands ever saw the light of day in a production version of VMS.   But the 
> idea (then) was that a VMS system could use remote services (such as a tape) 
> via a socket.  The UNIX command is called rmt(8) (and of course mt(8) and 
> IIRC rmt(8) was originally based on the rcmd(3) calls from rsh/rcp et al.
> 
> So assuming VMS supports same, using mt(8)/rmt(8) is trival on a UNIX side.   
>   But more importantly for you is that on the UNIX side the remote 'device' 
> can be a UNIX file as easily as a physical tape if the 'source' side knows 
> about using a socket as the output 'device.'.  I've used this trick to back 
> up some older systems to modern devices these days (my Masscomp box for 
> instance).  The "tape files" are stored on my NAS which has redundant 
> physical disks etc...  In fact,  I've even recompiled mt/rmt for my Mac at 
> one point and I have it working on *BSD with modern tapes (just needed to 
> grab the mtio.h file from BSD).  

Interesting…  I wonder if this is an option in the latest versions of OpenVMS.  
I was already researching OpenSource VTL options.  The problem being a distinct 
lack of support for OpenVMS in any OpenSource backup software that I could find.

Zane



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