On 2018-01-26 20:38, Clem Cole wrote:
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Johnny Billquist <b...@softjar.se
<mailto:b...@softjar.se>> wrote:
I don't think BLISS-16 ran on PDP-10, but I could be wrong. I've
never seen or heard anything about BLISS-16 running on Alpha or beyond.
Gem did exactly that conceptually.
Wasn't/isn't GEM the compiler core used for most languages later on? I
didn't think BLISS itself was using GEM, but I don't know at all.
However, I believe/assume/think I heard that GEM itself is written in BLISS.
I guess it could be possible to do, but I sortof doubt anyone did.
It's a testing problem. DEC was not only doing emergency fixes for
the PDP-11 by the time of Alpha, so I agree. I don't think TLG did
anything with the EOL systems by then, they had their hands full with
Vax, Alpha and 386; plus all the front ends.
When the Alpha came out, the PDP-11 was not dead. But I would not expect
that much work was done anymore. They had tools and products, which they
continued to use and improve. But moving to a new platform for any of it
would have been very doubtful.
If anyone have the bits, I would be very interested in hearing about
it, as I would like to recompile some bits and pieces. (Any BLISS-16
compiler would be a good start.)
VMSinc had the Gem compiler as part of their license. As I say, they
have Neil hacking on it again. But I believe that he is only worried
about Itanium and INTEL*64 at the moment. I also do not know what they
are doing with the front-ends. Clearly, they are working with the
BLISS front-end, but I have not idea what HP has them doing for the
other languages. I would expect to see C/C++/Fortran brought forward at
least through the dialect that DEC/Compaq/HP had at EOL, so customer
code will recompile, since I know of OVMS code in those three languages.
Yes, BLISS is being worked on, as is GEM. I saw some comment by on the
progress and issues around this from some VSI person not long ago.
But all that is far removed from anything PDP-11 related.
Johnny
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