On 2019-05-09 20:14, Hittner, David T [US] (MS) wrote:
There probably isn't a way to set the host network device's MAC address so that 
won't get you there.

If you are privileged enough, SMAC can set the MAC address on Windows. Google "smac 
change mac address".

Not that it helps much, unless you manage to push it down in the WiFi network card properly.

Changing the MAC address to the DECNET address does make it a bit trickier to 
start up DECNET though.

Uh? Why? Changing the MAC address to the DECnet address is essentially required for DECnet to work. Meaning not changing it will make starting DECnet hard...

  Johnny


https://www.thewindowsclub.com/free-mac-address-changer-tools-windows
https://smac.soft32.com/

David


-----Original Message-----
From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Mark Pizzolato
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 1:31 PM
To: Jonathan Welch <jhwe...@gmail.com>
Cc: simh@trailing-edge.com
Subject: EXT :Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 9:54 AM, Jonathan Welch wrote:
I just moved to a wired connection and now am having success.  Good
point about walking before running.

I'm on npcap 0.994 current as of last night.

I turned off DECNET to eliminate one source of possible trouble.  It
would be nice to have it on at some point in the future.

As I suggested, without DECnet, you should probably get success with a NAT 
connection using either a wired or a wireless host network.  DECnet over 
wireless probably isn't going to be achievable since many WiFi environments are 
particularly IP centric and don't pass arbitrary other packets, and even if 
they did, you would have to convince the host NIC to use a DECnet MAC address 
for everything.  There probably isn't a way to set the host network device's 
MAC address so that won't get you there.

- Mark

sim> sho ver
MicroVAX 3900 simulator V4.0-0 Current
     Simulator Framework Capabilities:
         64b data
         64b addresses
         Threaded Ethernet Packet transports:PCAP:NAT:UDP
         Idle/Throttling support is available
         Virtual Hard Disk (VHD) support
         RAW disk and CD/DVD ROM support
         Asynchronous I/O support (Lock free asynchronous event queue)
         Asynchronous Clock support
         FrontPanel API Version 12
     Host Platform:
         Compiler: Microsoft Visual C++ 15.00.30729.01
         Simulator Compiled as C arch: x86 (Release Build) on May  1
2019 at 23:0
0:06
         Memory Access: Little Endian
         Memory Pointer Size: 32 bits
         Large File (>2GB) support
         SDL Video support: SDL Version 2.0.8
         PCRE RegEx (Version 8.36 2014-09-26) support for EXPECT commands
         OS clock resolution: 1ms
         Time taken by msleep(1): 1ms
         OS: Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
         Architecture: x86 on AMD64, Processors: 8
         Processor Id: Intel64 Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7, GenuineIntel, 
Level:
  6, Revision: 2a07
         git commit id: ab3e07a4
         git commit time: 2019-05-01T22:56:54-07:00
sim>

On 5/9/19, Mark Pizzolato <m...@infocomm.com> wrote:
On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 7:00 AM, Jonathan Welch wrote:
The vms systems on our campus are about to be shut down.  My former
boss and I would like to still have access to our files, so I've
moved an image of a vax system disk into simh.

He is a networking expert and I am no slouch, but neither of us can
figure out why we cannot establish any kind of network connection
outside of the simh.

I've looked back in the archives for help but have only found
people with linux systems or messages of success with UCX.

This morning I upgraded from Multinet 4.3 to 5.2 and tried to set
up DHCP but that did not work either.

Npcap is installed.

If I set my mac address to be the same as that of the host laptop I
can use wireshark to see pings coming out from the vax but there
are no responses.

I've disabled decnet from starting up to avoid the mac address from
being changed.

Some guidance in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.

First: Learn to walk before you run.  Meaning, get things working
with a wired network connection BEFORE you try to use a wireless solution.

Second: It seems that you might be using a somewhat recent version
of simh since you've got a SHOW ETHERNET command, but it would be
useful to see the output of a SHOW VERSION command.  The latest
Windows binaries are available at:
https://github.com/simh/Win32-Development-Binaries

Third: Since you've disabled DECnet, that might mean that all you
care about is IP so, you may be able to achieve that both wired and
wirelessly if you use a NAT: attachment for your XQ device.

- Mark


 From my vax.ini file:
set xq mac=08-24-d7-ca-1f-40
att xq eth3

 From the simh prompt:
sim> sho eth
ETH devices:
  eth0   \Device\NPF_{8E7FBCD3-67EB-4A59-8E35-6713CAB729FA} (Local
Area
Connection 2)
  eth1   \Device\NPF_{EE67D248-AACC-4A29-99EE-2B84EA08B5EF} (VMware
Network Adapter VMnet8)
  eth2   \Device\NPF_{7287895B-5B94-43ED-8AA8-1FF910EA836B} (Wireless
Network Connection 2)
  eth3   \Device\NPF_{DC3CD7F8-4BD9-4610-B8DF-20AC5FBD56FC}
(Wireless
Network Connection)
  eth4   \Device\NPF_NdisWanIp                              (NdisWan
Adapter)
  eth5   \Device\NPF_NdisWanBh                              (NdisWan
Adapter)
  eth6   \Device\NPF_{B1392056-6E69-421B-9814-6011441195C2} (Wireless
Network Connection 3)
  eth7   \Device\NPF_NdisWanIpv6                            (NdisWan
Adapter)
  eth8   \Device\NPF_{C7140267-68CB-485A-B343-5751B1865242} (VMware
Network Adapter VMnet1)
  eth9   \Device\NPF_{795E27CA-60AA-4A1E-AAB0-99FB62537868} (Npcap
Loopback Adapter)
  eth10  \Device\NPF_{62CD8A59-7E13-401A-90AB-3CFBC37554E8} (Local
Area
Connection)
  eth11  nat:{optional-nat-parameters}                      (Integrated
NAT (SLiRP) support)
  eth12  udp:sourceport:remotehost:remoteport               (Integrated
UDP bridge support)
Npcap version 0.994, based on libpcap version 1.9.1-PRE-GIT Open
ETH
Devices:
  XQ     eth3 (Wireless Network Connection)
Ethernet Device:
   Name:
\Device\NPF_{DC3CD7F8-4BD9-4610-B8DF-20AC5FBD56FC}
   Reflections:             1
   Self Loopbacks Sent:     2
   Self Loopbacks Rcvd:     2
   Host NIC Address:        00:24:D7:CA:1F:40
   Packets Sent:            2
   Packets Received:        26
   Asynch Interrupts:       Disabled
   Read Queue: Count:       24
   Read Queue: High:        24
   Read Queue: Loss:        0
   Peak Write Queue Size:   0
   BPF Filter: (((ether dst 08:24:D7:CA:1F:40) or (ether multicast))
and not ((et her src 08:24:D7:CA:1F:40))) or ((ether dst
08:24:D7:CA:1F:40) and (ether src
08
:24:D7:CA:1F:40)) or ((ether dst 00:24:D7:CA:1F:40) and (ether
proto
0x9000))
sim>

Multinet settings
MultiNet Network Configuration Utility V5.2(107) [Reading in
MAXIMUM configuration from MULTINET:MULTINET.EXE] [Reading in
configuration from MULTINET:NETWORK_DEVICES.CONFIGURATION]
NET-CONFIG>sho
Interface                                Adapter     CSR Address
Flags/Vector
---------                                -------     -----------
------------
se0      (Shared VMS Ethernet/FDDI)       -NONE-        -NONE-
-NONE-
           [TCP/IP: 10.0.0.150, IP-SubNet: 255.255.255.0, IP-Broadcast:
10.0.0.255]
           [VMS Device: XQA0, Link Level: Ethernet ]
           DHCP Client for the interface is enabled


Official Host Name:             vax1
Default IP Route:               10.0.0.1
Domain Nameserver:              127.0.0.1
Timezone:                       EST
Timezone Rules:                 US/EASTERN
Load UCX $QIO driver:           TRUE
Load PWIP (Pathworks) driver:   TRUE
DHCP Client Flag:               1
NET-CONFIG>
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