Ahh, I was wondering if Exhibit on the MIT server was merely hosting the files 
or was also doing some computations.

My suggestion for anyone who wants to do a fun investigation would be to look 
into using Google's AppEngine cloud platform to host the painter server.

See http://code.google.com/appengine/

Regards,

Larry




________________________________
From: Robert Forkel <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:55:21 PM
Subject: Re: simile.mit.edu down?


hi,
i took the opportunity today - simile.mit.edu being down - to get
exhibit plus timeline and maps extension to run independent of
simile.mit.edu.
while the necessary changes in the source code to work around hard
coded paths were pretty minimal (i have to clean up my code before it
can serve as a tutorial), the problem with the painter script was
harder. the map extension call a script running on simile.mit.edu to
create dynamic map markers on the fly.
i first replaced that script with a pretty basic python cgi script
using PIL to create rather primitive markers, but then found the
javascript here:
http://gmaps-utility-library.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/mapiconmaker/release/src/mapiconmaker.js
which i simply substituted for the Exhibit.MapView._makeIcon function.
the only thing left to do now is replacing the calls to the painter
script used for the markers in the map legend.
regards,
robert

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Larry Kluger <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> I was wondering if you and the other posters were using Timeline or Exhibit.
> (Or one of the other fine Simile libraries.)
>
> Anyhow, I don't have much knowledge about Exhibit, but David H is an ace
> programmer. It may well be the case that the software looks to see if a
> certain library is already loaded, and, if not, it then loads it from MIT.
> In that case, the solution is for your html file to load the needed
> libraries (from your server) before the Exhibit code needs them.
>
> It could also be the case that something in the sw will need to be changed
> to enable you to host all of Exhibit on your server. In that case, I'm sure
> that David would be receptive to your patch.
>
> And your step by step instructions on how to locally host Exhibit would be
> very much appreciated by the community.
>
> Note that David sometimes dynamically adds script tags to the dom. In other
> words, he tells the browser to load libraries at runtime, not as a normal
> script tag inside of an html file.
>
> HTH,
>
> Larry
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steve <[email protected]>
> To: SIMILE Widgets <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:04:06 PM
> Subject: Re: simile.mit.edu down?
>
>
> Hi Larry,
>   I agree hosting yourself makes the most sense and I've moved the
> source to my own server and I'm trying to run an app that uses Exhibit
> with the Google Maps extension but the problem is there appears to be
> references to things that aren't provided. For example, the painters
> (simile.mit.edi/painter...) for the map used in the map extension. I
> can't seem to find that anywhere, am I simply missing something?
>
> Also, the reference to static.simile... is hardcoded throughout the
> source so there appears to be no easy way to direct it to a server of
> your own.
>
> Having said those things, I understand this is open source thus I
> don't mind fixing the URL's myself (unfortunately, I don't have time
> right now to work on a better solution) but the missing piece are
> pretty crucial.
>
> -Steve
>
> On Dec 19, 9:54 am, Larry Kluger <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> In my humble opinion, you are *far* better off hosting the libraries
>> yourself rather than depending on an .mit.edu server.
>> Like, night and day better off.
>>
>> The Yahoo folks have studied the issues of people's caches being primed
>> and the effect is, unfortunately, much less than what would be hoped for.
>> The odds of one of your clients having a cached version of the Simile
>> libraries from some other Simile-based page that is not connected to your
>> app are tiny. Or smaller.
>>
>> Be vertically integrated, host it yourself.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Eric Pugh <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:52:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: simile.mit.edu down?
>>
>> Joern,
>>
>> We are seeing the same thing.  I had made the assumption that this
>> site would be more reliable then hosting it ourselves, and allow the
>> possiblity that folks might already have the javascript cached
>> locally, however, maybe we are better off hosting it ourselves :-(
>>
>> I know Google had an effort to host some big javascript libraries, is
>> there anything like that for the Simile assets?
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2008, at 4:25 AM, Jörn Clausen wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hi!
>>
>> > I think simile.mit.edu is down. The site is not reachable, and so are
>> > sites still using the code hosted there.
>>
>> > Is this a planned downtime? Did I miss the EOL announcement??
>>
>> > --
>> > Joern Clausen
>> > [email protected]
>> >http://www.oe-files.de/oefiles/
>> >http://thebloeg.blogspot.com/
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------
>> Eric Pugh | Principal | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467
>> |http://www.opensourceconnections.com
>
>
>
> >
>


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