from what it looks like, i think the painter service can be replaced
completely with javascript + google chart api.
(un?)fortunately i'm just about to go skiing. but if i come up with a
more complete patch next week, i'll post it.
regards,
robert

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Larry Kluger <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Ahh, I was wondering if Exhibit on the MIT server was merely hosting the
> files or was also doing some computations.
>
> My suggestion for anyone who wants to do a fun investigation would be to
> look into using Google's AppEngine cloud platform to host the painter
> server.
>
> See http://code.google.com/appengine/
>
> Regards,
>
> Larry
>
> ________________________________
> From: Robert Forkel <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:55:21 PM
> Subject: Re: simile.mit.edu down?
>
>
> hi,
> i took the opportunity today - simile.mit.edu being down - to get
> exhibit plus timeline and maps extension to run independent of
> simile.mit.edu.
> while the necessary changes in the source code to work around hard
> coded paths were pretty minimal (i have to clean up my code before it
> can serve as a tutorial), the problem with the painter script was
> harder. the map extension call a script running on simile.mit.edu to
> create dynamic map markers on the fly.
> i first replaced that script with a pretty basic python cgi script
> using PIL to create rather primitive markers, but then found the
> javascript here:
> http://gmaps-utility-library.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/mapiconmaker/release/src/mapiconmaker.js
> which i simply substituted for the Exhibit.MapView._makeIcon function.
> the only thing left to do now is replacing the calls to the painter
> script used for the markers in the map legend.
> regards,
> robert
>
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Larry Kluger <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> I was wondering if you and the other posters were using Timeline or
>> Exhibit.
>> (Or one of the other fine Simile libraries.)
>>
>> Anyhow, I don't have much knowledge about Exhibit, but David H is an ace
>> programmer. It may well be the case that the software looks to see if a
>> certain library is already loaded, and, if not, it then loads it from MIT.
>> In that case, the solution is for your html file to load the needed
>> libraries (from your server) before the Exhibit code needs them.
>>
>> It could also be the case that something in the sw will need to be changed
>> to enable you to host all of Exhibit on your server. In that case, I'm
>> sure
>> that David would be receptive to your patch.
>>
>> And your step by step instructions on how to locally host Exhibit would be
>> very much appreciated by the community.
>>
>> Note that David sometimes dynamically adds script tags to the dom. In
>> other
>> words, he tells the browser to load libraries at runtime, not as a normal
>> script tag inside of an html file.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Steve <[email protected]>
>> To: SIMILE Widgets <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:04:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: simile.mit.edu down?
>>
>>
>> Hi Larry,
>>  I agree hosting yourself makes the most sense and I've moved the
>> source to my own server and I'm trying to run an app that uses Exhibit
>> with the Google Maps extension but the problem is there appears to be
>> references to things that aren't provided. For example, the painters
>> (simile.mit.edi/painter...) for the map used in the map extension. I
>> can't seem to find that anywhere, am I simply missing something?
>>
>> Also, the reference to static.simile... is hardcoded throughout the
>> source so there appears to be no easy way to direct it to a server of
>> your own.
>>
>> Having said those things, I understand this is open source thus I
>> don't mind fixing the URL's myself (unfortunately, I don't have time
>> right now to work on a better solution) but the missing piece are
>> pretty crucial.
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>> On Dec 19, 9:54 am, Larry Kluger <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi Eric,
>>>
>>> In my humble opinion, you are *far* better off hosting the libraries
>>> yourself rather than depending on an .mit.edu server.
>>> Like, night and day better off.
>>>
>>> The Yahoo folks have studied the issues of people's caches being primed
>>> and the effect is, unfortunately, much less than what would be hoped for.
>>> The odds of one of your clients having a cached version of the Simile
>>> libraries from some other Simile-based page that is not connected to your
>>> app are tiny. Or smaller.
>>>
>>> Be vertically integrated, host it yourself.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Eric Pugh <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:52:19 AM
>>> Subject: Re: simile.mit.edu down?
>>>
>>> Joern,
>>>
>>> We are seeing the same thing.  I had made the assumption that this
>>> site would be more reliable then hosting it ourselves, and allow the
>>> possiblity that folks might already have the javascript cached
>>> locally, however, maybe we are better off hosting it ourselves :-(
>>>
>>> I know Google had an effort to host some big javascript libraries, is
>>> there anything like that for the Simile assets?
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> On Dec 19, 2008, at 4:25 AM, Jörn Clausen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hi!
>>>
>>> > I think simile.mit.edu is down. The site is not reachable, and so are
>>> > sites still using the code hosted there.
>>>
>>> > Is this a planned downtime? Did I miss the EOL announcement??
>>>
>>> > --
>>> > Joern Clausen
>>> > [email protected]
>>> >http://www.oe-files.de/oefiles/
>>> >http://thebloeg.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>> Eric Pugh | Principal | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467
>>> |http://www.opensourceconnections.com
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
> >
>

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