You can get U.S. state and county boundary data files from various 
places.  Here are a few.  The most common GIS data format is called a 
"ESRI shapefile" which has been around for about 15 years or so.  There 
are plenty of packages out there that can read/convert shapefiles.  (For 
command line, programmatic use, check out GDAL.OGR, 
http://www.gdal.org/ogr/)


/The National Map/ Seamless Server
http://seamless.usgs.gov/index.php
(if you can figure out how to use it!)

The National Atlas
http://www-atlas.usgs.gov/atlasftp.html

U.S. Census Bureau TIGER files
http://www2.census.gov/cgi-bin/shapefiles/national-files

U.S. Census Bureau Generalized boundaries (smaller file sizes, less 
accuracy)
http://www.census.gov/geo/www/cob/bdy_files.html

Geospatial One Stop (large repository of US GIS data and map services)
http://gos2.geodata.gov/


Note that there are tons of vertices with state or county level data.  
There are about 3100+ counties.  I've seen Google Maps struggle (polygon 
overlays) with only hundreds of polygons at lesser resolution.  So, KML 
or straight coordinates wouldn't help much here.  However, a flash widget
or served from a map server would be fine.

- John





David Huynh wrote:
> John Callahan wrote:
>   
>> Regarding the last point, I agree that it's difficult to see which 
>> direction to go.  
>>     
> Yes,... other people have used some of the tools for showing clinical 
> drug trial data, rocket test data, educational materials, historical 
> events, software development project deliverables, ...
>
>   
>> There are so many ways to store geospatial, many of which are resource 
>> and storage hogs.  Imagine having 100 items, each with a URL-style 
>> field pointing to WMS services and Image and KML overlays to be 
>> displayed on the same map.  Performance would definitely be 
>> sacrificed.  Technically, this doesn't seem to be very hard as Google 
>> Maps supports these natively.  Even if you integrated OpenLayers (or 
>> similar FOSS Geo map clients), these types of overlays can be easily 
>> done.  Performance and variety of standards jump out at me as the 
>> biggest obstacles.
>>
>> On a separate note, what about having a map extension that is similar 
>> to Timeplot?  For example, you can bring in one CSV file or 
>> spreadsheet that contains dozens or hundreds of data points w. 
>> location.  It could be a 2D array for different types of markers (like 
>> separate lines on Timeplot) or maybe separate maps (like different 
>> bands in Timeline.)  
>>     
> That would be a good way to go. You will also probably want Babel to be 
> able to convert KML files from another domain into Exhibit JSONP. Note 
> that Timeplot can only load files (except for JSONP) from the same web 
> domain.
>
> By the way, one of the type of geospatial data that I think will be very 
> useful is state and county boundaries, starting with those of the U.S. 
> For example,
>     http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/map.html
> (switch to "County leaders") is quite an interesting visualization, and 
> the NY Times has produced a lot of U.S. maps broken down into counties. 
> If you click on a state on that map, it zooms in and you can then select 
> each county. I think that kind of map should become a reusable widget, 
> for anyone to plot any sort of per county data. Do you know where to 
> obtain the boundaries for the counties and states?
>
> David
>
> >
>   

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