Thanks for the links! I tried to download some of the files containing 
the state and county boundaries, but they are too huge (several dozens 
of Mb). I need something substantially less fine-grained. Say, if each 
county's boundary is rounded off to a 30-point polygon, with each vertex 
taking 26 characters to encode (11 digits for latitude plus decimal dot, 
same for longitude, a comma in between latitude and longitude, then a 
semicolon before the next lat/lng pair), and there are 3100 counties, 
then it'd take around 2.3Mb of plain text data. Do you know where I can 
get such coarse-grained data? If I can get my hand on such data, then 
I'll make a widget that anyone can use to plot any sort of U.S. county 
or state level data. I think it'll be fun, with all that "open 
government" / "open data" efforts going on.

David

John Callahan wrote:
> You can get U.S. state and county boundary data files from various 
> places.  Here are a few.  The most common GIS data format is called a 
> "ESRI shapefile" which has been around for about 15 years or so.  There 
> are plenty of packages out there that can read/convert shapefiles.  (For 
> command line, programmatic use, check out GDAL.OGR, 
> http://www.gdal.org/ogr/)
>
>
> /The National Map/ Seamless Server
> http://seamless.usgs.gov/index.php
> (if you can figure out how to use it!)
>
> The National Atlas
> http://www-atlas.usgs.gov/atlasftp.html
>
> U.S. Census Bureau TIGER files
> http://www2.census.gov/cgi-bin/shapefiles/national-files
>
> U.S. Census Bureau Generalized boundaries (smaller file sizes, less 
> accuracy)
> http://www.census.gov/geo/www/cob/bdy_files.html
>
> Geospatial One Stop (large repository of US GIS data and map services)
> http://gos2.geodata.gov/
>
>
> Note that there are tons of vertices with state or county level data.  
> There are about 3100+ counties.  I've seen Google Maps struggle (polygon 
> overlays) with only hundreds of polygons at lesser resolution.  So, KML 
> or straight coordinates wouldn't help much here.  However, a flash widget
> or served from a map server would be fine.
>
> - John
>
>
>
>
>
> David Huynh wrote:
>   
>> John Callahan wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Regarding the last point, I agree that it's difficult to see which 
>>> direction to go.  
>>>     
>>>       
>> Yes,... other people have used some of the tools for showing clinical 
>> drug trial data, rocket test data, educational materials, historical 
>> events, software development project deliverables, ...
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> There are so many ways to store geospatial, many of which are resource 
>>> and storage hogs.  Imagine having 100 items, each with a URL-style 
>>> field pointing to WMS services and Image and KML overlays to be 
>>> displayed on the same map.  Performance would definitely be 
>>> sacrificed.  Technically, this doesn't seem to be very hard as Google 
>>> Maps supports these natively.  Even if you integrated OpenLayers (or 
>>> similar FOSS Geo map clients), these types of overlays can be easily 
>>> done.  Performance and variety of standards jump out at me as the 
>>> biggest obstacles.
>>>
>>> On a separate note, what about having a map extension that is similar 
>>> to Timeplot?  For example, you can bring in one CSV file or 
>>> spreadsheet that contains dozens or hundreds of data points w. 
>>> location.  It could be a 2D array for different types of markers (like 
>>> separate lines on Timeplot) or maybe separate maps (like different 
>>> bands in Timeline.)  
>>>     
>>>       
>> That would be a good way to go. You will also probably want Babel to be 
>> able to convert KML files from another domain into Exhibit JSONP. Note 
>> that Timeplot can only load files (except for JSONP) from the same web 
>> domain.
>>
>> By the way, one of the type of geospatial data that I think will be very 
>> useful is state and county boundaries, starting with those of the U.S. 
>> For example,
>>     http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/map.html
>> (switch to "County leaders") is quite an interesting visualization, and 
>> the NY Times has produced a lot of U.S. maps broken down into counties. 
>> If you click on a state on that map, it zooms in and you can then select 
>> each county. I think that kind of map should become a reusable widget, 
>> for anyone to plot any sort of per county data. Do you know where to 
>> obtain the boundaries for the counties and states?
>>
>> David
>>
>>     
>>   
>>     
>
> >
>   


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