Oops.  Obvious typo in that last email (my brain must have skipped a 
beat!)  http://mit.udel.edu should have been http://simile.mit.edu

- John



John Callahan wrote:
> Thanks Jon for volunteering to help.  From what I gather, it seems like 
> we're heading toward the following...
>
> http://www.simile-widgets.org (new site)
> For the documentation wiki, examples, HowTo articles, links to 
> resources, etc..  This will be the virtual home, public face of these 
> projects.
>
> This means migrating/merging all the wiki and resource information from 
> http://simile.mit.edu/ (legacy site) and 
> http://code.google.com/p/simile-widgets/w/list (Google Code wiki) to the 
> new site.   The primary intent of this thread is to figure out the best 
> way to do this. 
>
>
> Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm thinking the new site will 
> include information for the SIMILE projects listed below.  The legacy 
> site (http://mit.udel.edu) will continue to exist but only for projects 
> not migrated.  It's likely that the wiki on Google Code would be 
> disabled.  (Google Code would only be for svn access and issue tracking.)
>
> Exhibit, Timeline, Timeplot, Runway, Babel
>
> (I'm not against any other SIMILE project being migrated as well... that 
> would be up to the project author.  IMO, if the source code is not going 
> to be updated then do not migrate it.)
>
>
> The following already exist and likely will not change:
> Code apis at http://api.simile-widgets.org/
> Email list/forum at http://groups.google.com/group/simile-widgets?hl=en
> SVN repository at http://simile-widgets.googlecode.com/svn/
> Issue tracking at http://code.google.com/p/simile-widgets/issues/list
>
> - John
>
>
>
> Jon Crump wrote:
>   
>> John et alia,
>>
>> I'd be happy to help. I confess, however, to some confusion over the 
>> 'legacy' site and the 'new' site: we seem to have three: MIT, Google, and 
>> simile-widgets.org. The documentation link in the latter (for timeline 
>> which is the widget I'm most familiar with) points to the wiki at google 
>> code. Is it proposed that the docs on the old site and on the google code 
>> site be merged into the simile-widgets.org site, or will we continue 
>> expanding the wiki at 
>> http://code.google.com/p/simile-widgets/wiki/Timeline ?
>>
>> In either case, if someone could add me to the wiki, there are some things 
>> I could help clarify there.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, John Callahan wrote:
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> Is there anyone else willing to help with SIMILE documentation?  I'd like to
>>> get a few more people to ease the load on any one person. 
>>>
>>> You can put in as little or as much time as you want.  Every little bit
>>> helps.  And there are many ways to help, such as...
>>>
>>> 1) send out your thoughts or experiences in using other documentation sites
>>> 2) send out your ideas on how the SIMILE docs and resources should be
>>> organized/searched
>>> 3) copy and paste content from the old legacy site to the new site
>>> 4) add links to In the Wild sites, blog posts, etc.., about SIMILE projects
>>> 5) create new reference documentation for existing functions
>>> 6) post brief HowTo articles, case studies of how you're using the products,
>>> FAQs, etc...
>>> 7) post code snippets that accomplishes a particular task
>>>
>>>
>>> Again, any of these can help.  I'm thinking we can have an off-list
>>> discussion on the overall architecture and documentation strategy very
>>> soon.  If you would like to be involved, at any level, just let me know. 
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> - John
>>>
>>> **************************************************
>>> John Callahan
>>> Geospatial Application Developer
>>> Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware
>>> 227 Academy St, Newark DE 19716-7501
>>> Tel: (302) 831-3584 
>>> Email: [email protected]
>>> http://www.dgs.udel.edu
>>> **************************************************
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gmail wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I'm also willing to volunteer. Assisted by Stefano; I completed moving 
>>> the legacy issues for Exhibit and Timeline to Google code after Easter. 
>>> So there are two sources to include in the strategy and planning:
>>> - information assets contained in the issues and resolution
>>> - following the excellent technical support demonstrates that "key 
>>> threads" often play an important part in resolution. Hence a 
>>> categorization and listing of these threads would enhance productivity.
>>>
>>> BTW, is there another source of documentation for the API's? I searched 
>>> for documentation on the HTML table importer but could find only the 
>>> code in the API source. Is there a documentation reference as well?
>>>
>>> I would invest some time to move, collect, or document the legacy 
>>> material and help develop the future references. Put me into the team 
>>> planning.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Gary Gabriel
>>>
>>> John Callahan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> That is exactly where all of this is headed.   I'm willing to volunteer 
>>> (and help coordinate) as well.  Maybe we can get a handful of people 
>>> together, develop a strategy, and start populating with content.
>>>
>>>  From what I know...
>>>
>>> All documentation should be at  http://www.simile-widgets.org
>>> Examples, HowTo articles, links to resources also at 
>>> http://www.simile-widgets.org
>>> Code apis should be at http://api.simile-widgets.org/
>>> Email list/forum at http://groups.google.com/group/simile-widgets?hl=en
>>> SVN repository at http://simile-widgets.googlecode.com/svn/
>>> Issue tracking at http://code.google.com/p/simile-widgets/issues/list
>>>
>>>
>>> IMO, It's be great to remove docs/resources form the old legacy site and 
>>> remove some of the components (wiki, download) from the Google site.
>>>
>>> - John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> mleden wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Along similar lines, it would be great to see the "SIMILE online
>>> content" consolidated to the degree possible.
>>>
>>> Right now, as I understand it, we have 3 main sources:
>>> 1. The "legacy site": http://simile.mit.edu
>>> 2. The "current site": http://www.simile-widgets.org
>>> 3. The "Google site": http://code.google.com/p/simile-widgets/
>>>
>>> We've all seen lots of confusion on this message board about where to
>>> go for what.  I find myself bouncing around between the three.
>>>
>>> At a minimum, it would be great to have any remaining content copied
>>> from the "legacy site" to the "current site".  The "legacy site" URL
>>> could simply auto-forward to the "current site".  I'm guessing the
>>> major benefit of using the "Google site" is for the development tools
>>> (source code control, issue tracking, etc).  I presume that this might
>>> be a little trickier to consolidate (into the "current site").
>>>
>>> As of right now, I can dedicate some time to any of the documentation/
>>> housekeeping efforts (with a little direction).  Just let me know
>>> directly how/if I can help.
>>>
>>> -Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 4, 7:43 am, David Karger <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John, I'm reasonably certain we've defaulted to (1) because both (2) and
>>> (3) require more substantial coordination and management, which we
>>> haven't been able to offer from within the simile team (too little
>>> manpower).  I doubt (2) could work since it requires all contributors to
>>> code a certain way.  I'd love to see (3) but that requires some people
>>> to step forward to join the doc team.
>>>
>>> John Callahan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Before I went ahead and started making suggestions about if SIMILE needs
>>> a CMS vs a wiki site, I should have stepped back and asked what the
>>> overall documentation strategy is.  I should have probably also asked if
>>> there were previous discussions about community building plans and how
>>> things have gone the past few years.  Sorry about that.  So, I started
>>> this new thread.  :-)
>>>
>>> What is the overall documentation strategy?
>>>
>>> 1) complete community contributed documentation in a wiki/CMS, including
>>> api references, examples, and HowTo articles.  This seems to be where we
>>> are now.
>>>
>>> 2) dynamically derived documentation from the code itself (could use
>>> Natural Docs,http://www.naturaldocs.org/or similar, e.g.,
>>> http://dev.openlayers.org/releases/OpenLayers-2.7/doc/apidocs/files/O...) 
>>> This would require the authors to add much more info the code. 
>>> Community would contribute examples and general articles.
>>>
>>> 3) select a documentation team to create api reference and other
>>> FAQs/important info.  (could use Sphinx,http://sphinx.pocoo.org/or
>>> similar, from restructured text, e.g.,
>>> http://mapserver.org/documentation.html)  Community would again
>>> contribute examples and general articles but under the guidelines of the
>>> doc team.
>>>
>>> And I'm sure there are many others.   Has this been previously discussed
>>> or decided upon?  Any thoughts on best approaches?
>>>
>>> - John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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