At 7:09 PM +1000 8/30/01, Terry Allen  imposed structure on a stream 
of electrons, yielding:
>>Hello,
>>
>>On Wed, Aug 29, 2001, 17:17:02 GMT
>>   Pete Stephenson, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Is there any maximum size limit in the banner? (I have no intention
>>>of writing a novel, but I'd like to avoid breaking stuff in the
>>>aforementioned manner.)
>>
>>255 bytes - the limit for a string in an STR# resource.
>>
>Hi again,
>       Excuse my ignorance, but this talk of UCE banner's grabbed my
>curiosity. Just what is a UCE banner? does it mean 'Unsolicited Commercial
>Email'?
>       Does adding this NO UCE banner prevent the (correctly formatted)
>spam sender's mail coming into the server? If this is the case, it would
>seem a very useful modification to make.

The server's  'banner' is the line it sends at initial connect time. 
Until the client side sees the banner, it is not supposed to send any 
commands. Technically only the initial 3-digit response code part of 
the banner is meaningful, but traditionally the remainder has 
included things like MTA name and version and hostname.

A very popular idea for drawing a middle line between outright 
banning of UCE and doing nothing in law has been to define a standard 
way for server owners to state their policy to anyone who wishes to 
offer mail to their machine. The banner is the logical way to do this 
and at least one of the failed federal bills in the US has included 
language that would have made "NO UCE" in a banner the electronic 
equivalent of "No Trespassing" signs on private property. (In the US, 
property without fences or such signs is open to rather extensive use 
by anyone, but with prohibitive signs trespassing, hunting, camping, 
etc. become criminal offenses)  A law that established this (or more 
likely, one which left the technical details to someone like the 
IETF, wehich would likely adopt a banner standard) would be hard to 
fight politically in the US because it is a clear endorsement of 
private property rights which would be exercisable in an open and 
transparent fashion. The spammers and their fellow-travelers really 
hate the idea with a passion and have worked every political trick 
they can find to smother any bill that comes close to this, even 
though it is far from what many in the anti-spam community would 
prefer: an outright ban on all UCE.

So far, adding special language to a banner probably has little or no 
impact. Spammers do not have to honor it and  so they don't bother 
checking. If they were smart, they would be checking now because it 
would at least help them avoid places where the owners of servers are 
announcing their enmity.
-- 
Bill Cole
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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