At 9:06 PM -0400 9/17/01, Bill Cole wrote:
>...In looking at the ORBZ test sample, I suspect that the fix is 
>simple: take ps00 out of the trusted client list on mail. As long as 
>ps00 isn't trying to relay  to the world through mail, it doesn't 
>need to be in that list and all you get from adding it is this sort 
>of openness. Sadly, spammers DO use this exact trick to pipe through 
>other peoples' mail servers, so ORBZ is not just noting an obscure 
>vulnerability that isn't a real risk.

Thanks Bill... I do see the "percent hack" in their test message. So 
I removed ps00.west21.com (64.21.154.2) from the "client hosts" area 
of my SMTP settings on mail.west21.com (204.89.131.70). Then I went 
back to orbz and queued up another test. It still went through.

Is this now a SIMS issue? Are all SIMS secondary/primary server pairs 
vulnerable?

Here are the headers from their two test messages...

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Last Relayed Output Message

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 12569 invoked by uid 0); 17 Sep 2001 18:41:28 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO 64.21.154.2) (64.21.154.2)  by 
205.231.149.25 with SMTP; 17 Sep 2001 18:41:28 -0000
Received: from [205.231.149.53] (HELO orbz.org) by 64.21.154.2 
(Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b7) with SMTP id S.0011143041 for 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:27:20 -0400
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon Sep 17 18:25:33 2001
From: ORBZ Tester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Errors-To: ORBZ Tester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ORBZ Relay Accepter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ORBZ Relay Test

...

This test is using the following SMTP envelope:
  MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RCPT 
TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Last Relayed Input Message

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 32696 invoked by alias); 18 Sep 2001 11:34:51 -0000
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 32693 invoked by uid 0); 18 Sep 2001 11:34:51 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO mail.west21.com) (204.89.131.70)  by 
205.231.149.25 with SMTP; 18 Sep 2001 11:34:51 -0000
Received: from ps00.west21.com ([64.21.154.2] verified) by 
mail.west21.com (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b7) with ESMTP id 
S.0004274568 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 
07:20:42 -0400
Received: from [205.231.149.53] (HELO orbz.org) by ps00.west21.com 
(Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b7) with SMTP id S.0011144895 for 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 07:19:58 -0400
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue Sep 18 11:18:00 2001
From: ORBZ Tester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Errors-To: ORBZ Tester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ORBZ Relay Accepter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ORBZ Relay Test

...

This test is using the following SMTP envelope:

MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


So now what? ;-(

___Joe___
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Joseph D'Andrea                 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WEST21.com Internet services for the 21st Century
              http://www.west21.com/
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