>I have no light to shed on the ztl list, but CAIS/Ardent has been >spiralling downhill in their abuse reponse for a while, and I >router-blocked (i.e. packets, not just mail) big chunks of them >after my last spam report to [EMAIL PROTECTED] was followed the next >day with a collection of nasty attacks from the spammer's CAIS space >and from what looked like CAIS internal machines. As far as I'm >concerned, they are AT LEAST carelessly passing spam reports right >to the spammers without asking and MAY be participating with their >spammer customers in retaliating against people who complain about >spam.
I'm getting that picture, and the utterly clueless idiots at NAS respond no more than to say they have no way to help me if my mailserver got blacklisted. They are not comprehending that my mail server was never blacklisted per se, but that dorkslayers is (was? - see below) rb-listing the CAIS network, of which they are a part. FWIW, I did write to dorkslayers via my yahoo acct, and a Bill Maloy gave me nanae references of some relevant flamewa... um, "discussions," which were helpful in learning the history. And just before I wrote him back to ask him if there was a way to whitehole my mail server, I checked again at osirusoft and my machine did *not* show up on dorkslayers. So I don't know if he was kind enough to just whitehole me based on my initial e-mail, or whether osirusoft doesn't always return correct results (I've not been back to check more, this stuff can sure consume some damn time). Bill, thanks for all your other answer threads too. Always informative when you join the discussion! Stefan Jeglinski ############################################################# This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Send administrative queries to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
