At 8:46 PM -0600 9/11/02, LuKreme  imposed structure on a stream of 
electrons, yielding:
>On Wednesday, September 11, 2002, at 07:13 PM, Bill Cole wrote:
>>At 6:52 PM -0600 9/10/02, LuKreme  imposed structure on a stream of 
>>electrons, yielding:
>>>On Monday, September 9, 2002, at 08:53 PM, Geoff Canyon wrote:
>>>>But the POP3 server doesn't have access to that information? 
>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] logs in to get his email, and the POP3 server 
>>>>doesn't have any way of knowing whether is fred from firstdom.com 
>>>>or fred from seconddom.com?
>>>
>>>How could it?  Both users are named "fred"
>>>
>>>Or are you suggesting that SIMS break RFC and force the cumbersome 
>>>and annoying "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" as the login name?
>>
>>Others do that, and I'm not clear on where that's at variance with 
>>any RFC.  RFC1939 is the definitive POP3 standard, but it doesn't 
>>actually define any limitations on the argument to the USER command 
>>beyond the protocol-wide requirements that all keywords and 
>>arguments be printable ASCII characters, and that arguments be <40 
>>characters.
>
>Well, it is trivially easy to have a user+ domain that exceeds 40 characters.

Sure, but that's not inherent in supporting user@domain as a POP3 
login. It just limits what one can have for both fields.

That also is a limitation which is quite arbitrary, arguably 
pointless. Nothing else in the world will break if a POP3 server 
suddenly starts supporting a 255-character  argument to the USER 
command.


>In fact, with a 31 character limit on the OS filename it only takes 
>a 5 character domain to break 40 characters (@12345.tld = 41 
>characters)
>
>          1         2         3         4         5         6
>123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]


That's an implementation issue, not anything like an RFC compliance issue.


>The way to deal with it would be for SIMS to see the requested 
>hostname of the connection.  So if I have two domains, 
>IloveAlysonHannigan.com and IhateBrateneySpear.com when I connect to 
>"mail.IhateBrateneySpear.com" as user "fred" SIMS sees the domain 
>and looks at the right space.  I don't know if that's reasonable. 
>Or heck, possible.

That's not really possible unless each name resolves to a different 
address and the POP3 server knows about that distinction, for which 
it should not be trusting DNS  because nothing should trust DNS for 
potentially security-sensitive information.  So you'd have a big 
rearchitecting of SIMS (multiple listeners on multiple IP addresses) 
and a new bit of configuration that would strike many people as 
redundant.


>On the other hand, it is exceedingly minor and I wouldn't suggest 
>anyone waste more than a few minutes on it, if that.

Well, yes.

-- 
Bill Cole                                  
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