At 11:24 PM -0500 2/10/03, Neil Herber wrote:
>It looks pretty convincing to me, because the reflected delivery really does get 
>bounced at the HELO/envelope stage. In effect, SIMS is relaying to itself and the 
>relayed mail is not accepted. It also happens to deliver a copy.
>
>Unless I am sadly mistaken (and I have been many times) this produces the same result 
>you would get if the mail was addressed to one good address and one closed address. 
>The mail is delivered to the good address and the bounce message is returned for the 
>closed one.

The only difference that immediately jumps to mind is that the "bounce"
message will originate from a remote server, not from their own server.

A bounce at the HELO/EHLO stage, or before the e-mail is transmitted,
makes their own mailer send them a bounce message; at this point it's
obvious that the mail did not get delivered.  However, a "bounce" message
from a remote mailer says that the mail got transmitted and accepted,
however temporarily.

Perhaps a distinction without a difference; however, I think that I'd
pay attention to it, were I a spammer.

#############################################################
This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to
  the mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Send administrative queries to  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Reply via email to