on 12/4/03 7:21 PM, Bill Cole at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> At 1:37 PM -0500 12/4/03, Paul List Hess  imposed structure on a
> stream of electrons, yielding:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I just had an old iMac handed down to replace and improve my even
>> much older mail server which is currently a little old Power Mac
>> 6116 that is running SIMS (60MHz?, 700MB Drive, MacOS 9.0.4, SIMS
>> and Retrospect Client) reliably for several years.  The new machine
>> is probably 50x faster which I don't think I care about, has a much
>> larger hard drive which will allow me to be a lot less stingy on
>> user mailbox sizes and keeping log files, and runs OS/X-10.2.
>> 
>> I was all set to downgrade the new iMac to OS/9 but it feels funny
>> to step backwards like that without taking a pause.  If you were
>> doing it, would you downgrade the new box, keep it at OS/X (seems
>> silly to run SIMS under classic mode), or would you bite the bullet
>> and try to get up to speed on using the built in OS/X (Unix) mail
>> capabilities?
>> 
>> Under Unix I know from distant memory that the routing is pretty
>> nice (some sort of .aliases file which, for instance, let me direct
>> one alias out to 5 different addresses without creating a fake POP
>> mailbox to do the rerouting as I have to do in SIMS).  But
>> implementing the RBL's would probably be a new hassle sine I think
>> it involves extra incantations with scripting etc.  I'd also need to
>> find instructions on how to set it up initially, figure out if there
>> are any new security issues, and find a support community similar to
>> this awesome list!
>> 
>> So, if you had a brand new OS/X box dumped on your lap for a mail
>> server, what would you do?
> 
> Switch.
> 
> I say that as someone who has written sendmail.cf files by hand, so i
> am likely biased. However, you don't need that skill any more given
> the m4 structure that sendmail now has, and if you are running
> Panther, it even comes with Postfix instead anyway. DNSBL use is NOT
> complex these days in Sendmail or Postfix, and with the exception of
> the dictionary attack feature of SIMS, there's nothing you cannot do
> with an OSX/Postfix machine that you can do with SIMS, and a fair
> amount more that you can do.
> 
> Plus, whether you use an old OSX with the included sendmail, or
> replace that with Postfix, or get Panther and its included Postfix,
> you will have an open source MTA with active development going on.
> With SIMS we have a good MTA, but one with a handful of annoying bugs
> and some clear areas where improvements could be made but seem
> unlikely to ever actually be made. That's a sad situation, but it
> makes sense for Stalker from a business perspective. Unfortunately,
> the coming year or so is likely to see some serious advances in
> anti-spam methodology that are likely to be impossible to tack onto
> SIMS from the outside, and unless Stalker changes their minds, SIMS
> will be left behind.
> 

I agree with Bill.  :-)

Course, HE knows what he's doing...... ;-)

Chris


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