Russell Wallace wrote:
On 9/13/06, *Joel Pitt* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    Not to be pedantic, but someone in a foreign country where they didn't
    ...


Meh, I should have predicted that... here's another case where an intelligent being fails to predict the rather obvious actions of other intelligent beings :) - suffice it to say that I was taking the piss, and not making any attempt whatsoever to define necessary conditions for consciousness or self-direction. (And to repeat again, I think such a definition is quite impossible.)
Given that you don't seem to accept elementary forms of consciousness, that's true. To me consciousness of self means that the entity is able to detect it's on state, and being self-willed means that it is able to TRY to act in a method in harmony with it's goals as a result of that awareness. I'll grant you that this means I've got to accept that mosquitoes are conscious and self willed at an elementary level...but then I *do* accept that. To me is seems that there is a (relatively) smooth gradient in awareness and consciousness. And that being self willed is visibly displaying the results of actions based on that awareness.

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