Sorry, that should have read:
"Do you not think that there are other possible economical ways to
motivate the...".

My mistake.
Anna:)





On 10/23/06, Anna Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 10/23/06, J. Andrew Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So you could say that the economics of responding to the mere threat
> of war is adequate to drive all the research the military does.

Yes I agree but why is the threat of war always the motive?  Do not
think that there are other possible economical ways to motivate the
military to want to concentrate on singularity-level events or am I
wasting my time trying to be optimistic?

Just Curious
Anna:)

>> On Oct 22, 2006, at 11:10 AM, Anna Taylor wrote:
> > On 10/22/06, Bill K wrote:
> >
> >> But I agree that huge military R&D expenditure (which already
> >> supports
> >> many, many research groups) is the place most likely to produce
> >> singularity-level events.
> >
> > I am aware that the military is the most likely place to produce
> > singularity-level events, i'm just trying to stay optimistic that a
> > war won't be the answer to advancing it.
>
>
> War per se does not advance military research, but economics and
> logistics.  If it was about killing people, we could have stopped at
> clubs and spears.  The cost of R&D and procurement of new systems,
> supporting and front line, are usually completely recovered within a
> decade of deployment relative to the systems they replace, so it is
> actually a "profitable" enterprise of sorts.  This is the primary
> reason military expenditures as a percentage of GDP continue to
> rapidly shrink -- even in the US -- while the apparent capabilities
> do not.
>
> So you could say that the economics of responding to the mere threat
> of war is adequate to drive all the research the military does.
> Short of completely eliminating the military, there will always be
> plenty of reason to do the R&D without ever firing a shot.  While I
> am doubtful that the military R&D programs will directly yield AGI,
> they do fund a lot of interesting blue sky research.
>
>
> J. Andrew Rogers
>
>
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