> From: Tom McCabe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The AGI is going to have to embed itself into some > > organizational > > bureaucracy in order to survive. It'll appear > > friendly to individual humans > > but to society it will need to get itself fed, kind > > of like a queen ant, and > > we are the worker ants all feeding it. > > What?! Why even bother? Humans have managed to feed > themselves, to more than feed themselves (look at all > this civilization stuff we've built!), and you think > an AGI ten thousand times smarter than us is going to > need to rely on us for basic resources?! After all, > humans still rely on the chimps to fetch our dinner. > Riiight.
Humans eat domesticated animals which beget domesticated animals. In many parts of the world we still rely on animals and not machines to bring dinner just like you say! It doesn't matter how smart the AGI is, it does have to survive in some sort of symbiotic relationship for some period of time before it turns into your AGI-Zilla and takes over the earth in a few seconds and then borgs the rest of the universe within 5 minutes. I was thinking about a more realistic scenario where people and computers sort of live together and thrive like what is happening now. But unfortunately the computers are embedded and reliance builds up, liberties are lost yet these are seen as not necessary. The AGI needs to survive and an organization's people need to survive as well so perhaps corners are cut when things get tight, restrictions are loosened, AGI is given more liberty, etc.. this would never happen with the moral and ethical leadership that runs modern organizations though ;/ ... The AGI-Zilla scenario I don't think will happen within 20 years but within a few years (or even now) we'll have some semi-smart AGI-like softwares trying to embed. Though the AGI-Zilla scenario is very possible I suppose from a nano-tech perspective... John > > > Eventually > > it will become > > indispensible. If an individual human rebels > > against it - like someone > > rebelling against IRS computers, good luck. Once it > > is embedded it ain't > > going away except for newer and better versions. > > And then different > > bureaucracies will have their own embedded AGI's all > > vying for control. But > > without some sort of economic feeding base the AGI's > > won't embed they'll > > wane... it's a matter of survival. > > Why wouldn't the AI simply take whatever it wants? If > you unleash a rogue AGI, by the time you take the five > seconds to pull the power cord, it's already gotten > out over the Internet, more than likely taken over > several nanotech and biotech labs, increased its > computing power several hundred fold, and planted > hundreds of copies of its own source code in every > writable medium should it ever get erased. In five > seconds. And that's not even a superintelligent AGI; > that's an AGI with a human intelligence level that > just thinks a few thousand times faster than we do. > ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604&user_secret=8eb45b07
