On 5/29/07, Samantha Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


So your are happily provincial in this respect.


Addendum: I think it is my view that is unprovincial. We're programmed to
think intelligence = humanlike, because for the last million years the only
forms of general intelligence in existence have been human. So every
generation that tries to imagine what the next generation's super-advanced
machines will be like, comes up with - metal men. Oh, as time goes by the
imagination gets more sophisticated, the whirrs and beeps get muted, the
language is cloaked in jargon like "really powerful optimization process",
but it's still metal men with the animal will to survival and power. Every
generation does the same thing, no matter how often real progress fails to
even start veering in that direction, because it's programmed into our
psychology to think like that - yes, mine too, I spent years on those lines
and I still look wistfully back at how much fun it was to seriously imagine
creating a sentient mind from scratch; what cooler hack could there ever be?

Meanwhile, real life progress continues to consist of ever more
sophisticated boxes that process data according to keyboard input and mouse
clicks.

The lesson is that much can be achieved, provided we don't insist that it
conform to our prior intuitions. But then, looking back at the alchemists
and how almost against their will they discovered chemistry, the astrologers
and how some of them managed to drag themselves kicking and screaming into
astronomy... there's nothing new under the sun!

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