Death isn't just the absence of life; it's the
cessation of life that once existed. The Bootes Void,
so far as we know, has no life at all, and yet nobody
feels it is a great tragedy.

 - Tom

--- MindInstance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >> Objective observers care only about the type of a
> person and whether it's
> >> instantiated, not about the fate of its instances
> (because, frankly, they're not
> >> aware of the difference between the type and an
> instance). But since I know 
> >> better,
> >> I would be sad about dead instances. The point is
> whether I'm sad/upset or not
> >> about a fact not does change that fact.
> 
> Stathis:
> > Most people would be upset by the prospect of
> their death, and if
> > death is interruption of brain processes, they
> should be upset by
> > this. However, it is your definition of death
> which is at issue. If
> > someone chose to objectively define death as
> replacement of a certain
> > proportion of the matter in a person's brain, what
> argument would you
> > use against this definition?
> 
> I would suggest focusing on definition of life
> first. Only then one can have a 
> decent chance at getting the correct definition of
> death (absence of life).
> 
> Life is not just a collection of atoms arranged into
> a special pattern. It is, at 
> least, a spatiotemporal process guided by a special
> pattern. Also, it is not 
> information about the pattern (data), but the
> process itself (activity).
> 
> It's probably useful to think about life in terms of
> layers of abstraction. There's 
> an implementation layer starting with atom layer,
> then neuron layer, and so on, 
> that makes life possible, yet is not life itself.
> Life happens at the 
> spatiotemporal "process layer" which means that
> details of implementation layer 
> beneath process layer are not important as long as
> its function is preserved. 
> Suppose you want to watch a movie. It doesn't really
> matter if the movie is fed by 
> DVD player to CRT screen or by VHS player to LCD.
> This is implementation layer and 
> it is almost orthogonal to the process layer of you
> reacting emotionally to the 
> movie. Unsurprisingly, you and I are still *alive*
> even though our implementation 
> layers undergo gradual replacement. I'm still alive
> because my process layer hasn't 
> been disturbed by the changes at implementation
> layers (although it could, of 
> course).
> 
> This is just an outline of what life is physically.
> Defining death would be 
> slightly more complicated. :-)
> 
> H. 
> 
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