Hi,

>If you have received a provisional response, you can, in fact, send
>a CANCEL to a re-INVITE. However, the nature of re-INVITE is such
>that it is not likely to pend for long,

If you use re-INVITE together with the manyfolks resource reservation it will take
a long time before you receive a final response.

However, I don't know if one is "allowed" to use manyfolks with with re-INVITEs,
or if there are any defined scenarios where it would be needed, so...

Comments?

Regards,

Christer Holmberg
Ericsson Finland


Robert Sparks wrote:

> On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 19:26, Ranjit Avasarala wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> >    But u use re-invite to change the session parameters of an existing call.
> > So how can u send CANCEL then?
>
> The session parameters don't change until the re-INVITE is accepted.
> If the UAS hasn't sent a 200 OK (or some other final response) to
> that re-INVITE before the CANCEL arrives, the reINVITE is cancelled.
> The session stays just like it was - from the session's perspective
> it will be as if the re-INVITE had never been sent
>
> RjS
>
> >
> > Ranjit
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Robert Sparks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Ranjit Avasarala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: Suresh Arora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Medhavi Bhatia
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 3:12 PM
> > Subject: [Sip-implementors] Re: [Sip] CANCEL FAQs
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 13:34, Ranjit Avasarala wrote:
> > > > u cannot send CANCEL for re-invite as u won't be getting any ringing
> > tone as
> > > > response
> > >
> > > This is not correct.
> > >
> > > If you have received a provisional response, you can, in fact, send
> > > a CANCEL to a re-INVITE. However, the nature of re-INVITE is such
> > > that it is not likely to pend for long, so the chances that the CANCEL
> > > won't arrive in time to affect the re-INVITE are higher than they are
> > > for an initial INVITE.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Ranjit
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Suresh Arora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: Medhavi Bhatia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 6:14 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [Sip] CANCEL FAQs
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I think UAS can send CANCEL to UAC for a re-INVITE (if requested
> > session
> > > > > characteristics are not supported by Server).
> > >
> > > As Ajit already pointed out, if the UAS doesn't like an INVITE request
> > > it sends a response, not another request. CANCEL works like this:
> > >
> > > INVITE
> > > -------->
> > > CANCEL
> > > -------->
> > >
> > > NOT like this:
> > >
> > > INVITE
> > > -------->
> > >    CANCEL
> > > <--------
> > >
> > > For the case you call out (unsupported session characteristics) the
> > > UAS will return a 488 (or possibly a 606). Thus:
> > >
> > > INVITE
> > > -------->
> > >      488
> > > <--------
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Suresh
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Medhavi
> > > > > Bhatia
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:21 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Sip] CANCEL FAQs
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This stuff generally belongs to the implementor's list:
> > sip-implementors
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >
> > > > > Generally CANCEL should not be used for transactions which are bound
> > to
> > > > > complete
> > > > > quickly, and never for transactions for which you havent received a
> > > > > provisional (1xx)
> > > > > response. So the answer for (1) would be: probably not. Also the UAS
> > > > cannot
> > > > > cancel
> > > > > a transaction started by the UAC (I guess that's what you meant), so
> > it
> > > > > cannot generate
> > > > > the CANCEL ever.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Sp.Raja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 6:25 AM
> > > > > Subject: [Sip] CANCEL FAQs
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Please help me out by answering these questions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Can CANCEL be used to cancel a bye ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. Can CANCEL be send by the called entity (UAS) ? If yes then under
> > > > what
> > > > > > circumstances
> > >
> > > The answers above probably address what you meant, but to be
> > > complete:
> > >
> > > The "called entity" plays the role of a UAS for the transaction
> > > processing the INVITE it received. It cannot CANCEL that transaction,
> > > it can only send responses in it.
> > >
> > > If that INVITE is accepted, the called entity can later send
> > > its own requests (such as (re-)INVITE). It is playing the roal
> > > of a UAC for those request transactions, and once it recieves
> > > a provisional response, it can send CANCELs.
> > >
> > > RjS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Sp.Raja
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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