Hi,

TLS is also not a transport protocoll. SIPS does not care about the transport 
protocoll, it simply requires an encryption off the SIP message. 3261 suggests TLS and 
IPsec.

Gerhard

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Hi
   But IP Sec is at IP level. It is not a transport protocol.

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Hi,

SIPS requires a secure transport, but not necessarily TLS. TLS is one
possibility, and IPsec is another. An entity that receives a request
with a SIPS URL over an unsecured transport should response with a 403
forbidden.

Gerhard.   

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Hi
   First of all sips: cannot come on non-TLS transport, be'se sips:
implies TLS. But reverse is not true, I,e all requests coming on TLS
need not be sips:

Ranjit

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Hi,
   What is the expected behaviour from an entity that
receives a request with a sips URL in the Request-URI
but coming on a non-TLS transport. Is this a legal
scenario ? If not, is there a specific response code
to handle this kind of error.
   Also, if it is not an error, what would be the
appropriate Contact to insert in the response - sip
or sips. The caller probably didn't support TLS but
used a sips URL in the initial request so as to
ensure secure communication. But if we assume this
and insert a sips URL in the Contact, then the
endpoint will be forced to use TLS for subsequent
messages in the dialog (per Sec 8.1.2).

Any pointers are welcome.

Thanks in advance,
Subhash Nayak
Hughes Software Systems
http://www.hssworld.com



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