Hi Sunil

   here since proxy is aware that user C is in a different network, it should 
communicate with user C using G.729. so the media part is /transcoded/ before it goes 
to user C.
   So the media server, transcodes from G.711 to G.729 for C and vice versa for A. 

     
Regards
Ranjit



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Guru,
The question is not only about the codec negotiation. It is mainly about the selection 
of the codec for effective b/w utilization in this scenario.

All these IP phones A,B and C support G.711 and G.729. And when A is supporting G.711, 
C also supports G.711 in this call. But, since C is in a different n/w with WAN 
interface, G.711 would be expensive which consumes more b/w. So, G.729 is the right 
codec here. Since, these endpoint terminals are not aware of the network 
configurations, C does not have intelligence to do this.

What are the ways to select a proper codec here? Should the proxy server change the 
codec when the message is being sent? If proxy is doing this job, how can it trace 
what network interfaces the IP phones have?

I think I have made the question clear.

- sunil vatnal

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>
> Hi,
>
> With your Diagrammatic view, it is clear that proxy knows where user C 
> is and when user A sends an invite; proxy intercepts and intern sends 
> an invite to user C with user A media capabilities. If proxy does 
> receive a 200 ok from user C it just forwards the message to user A. 
> (User C is complaint with user A media capabilities). If this doesn't 
> happen user C proposes its own media capabilities and codec 
> negotiation can take place (Proxy may intercept with each or ip phones 
> may have the intelligence to carry out msg transfers without proxy 
> in-between.)
>
> Regards,
> Guru
>
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>
> Hi,
>
> When codec negotiation is taking place,
>
> - Since the endpoint terminals - usually IP phones - are not aware of 
> the network configuration, How can the endpoint terminal (usually IP 
> Phone) decide one of its codec capabilities ?
>
> For example, there're 3 users on the network.
>   user A (IP phone, G.711, G.729 are possible, network 1.0.0.0)
>   user B (IP phone, G.711, G.729 are possible, network 1.0.0.0)
>   user C (IP phone, G.711, G.729 are possible, network 3.0.0.0)
>   Proxy Server (network 1.0.0.0)
>
>    A ----- B   (same network, LAN)
>      \
>       P
>        |
>        |
>       C         (different network, WAN)
>
> In case when the call between A and C is taking place and when the 
> bandwidth is concerned, How would they know that G.729 should be used 
> instead of G.711 because they're not in the LAN environment ?
>
> Thanks
>
> /Jun
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