*I think* the device should determine whenever or not the INVITE is an initial 
INVITE or a reINVITE by checking for presence of a to-tag. (I think RFC3261 
mentions this scenario somewhere - section 12.2.2).

A spurious reINVITE, i.e. one without a matching dialog should be rejected with 
a 481 (no matching call/transaction) response.

Matthew Gardiner 

-----Original Message-----
From: Emily Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 June 2006 15:53
To: Matthew Gardiner
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] SIP blind transfer question


Hi Matthew,

You are correct.  The re-Invite is extraneous and should not be sent by
the proxy so it does not show in the call flow you reference.  

However, in the condition that an extraneous re-INVITE is sent, my
question is how the SIP UA should react?  We are seeing different
behaviors in our lab where most devices do not re-ring the Phone X
(Transferor) and one device does rering X, and my question is whether
there is any defined behavior in this instance.  

Thank you!
Emily

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Gardiner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 10:39 AM
> To: Smith, Emily [GWRTP:JD03:EXCH]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] SIP blind transfer question
> 
> 
> Hi Emily,
> 
> Which flow are you looking at regarding the scenario you describe?
> 
> We base our blind transfer (approximately) on
> 
> section 5.1 of 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sipping-cc-tran
sfer-06.txt

I cannot see the re-invite you describe in this flow.

Matthew Gardiner

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Emily
Smith
Sent: 26 June 2006 13:42
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Sip-implementors] SIP blind transfer question


Hello,

I am new to the list and relatively new to SIP as well.  I have a
question I hope someone can answer here.  I have searched the SIP RFCs
and drafts to no avail.

If a SIP party X performs a blind transfer of party X to party Y, and
the SIP proxy sends a NOTIFY (100 Trying) to the Sip party X, followed
by a re-INVITE with the same Call-ID prior to sending a NOTIFY (200 Ok),
what should the SIP device X's response be to the extraneous re-INVITE?
Since party X is on-hook at the time since this is a blind rather than
an attended transfer, he could re-ring X's line (though there is no
party calling, so this is confusing to the user), or he could ignore the
re-INVITE since he is waiting for a NOTIFY 200 Ok state.

Is there any guidance in the SIP RFCs/drafts for SIP User Agent behavior
in this situation, or is it up to the individual UA to implement as
desired?

Many thanks in advance,

Emily Smith
DMS-10 Software Development 
Nortel
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Office 919.992.7467

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