Hi Castillo,

My two cents. As the provider I would not play early media for 404 case 
since I know the PSTN provider will do it. It should be possible to identify 
this special case in the coding level.

Thanks,
Ryan

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From: "Iñaki Baz Castillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:12 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [Sip-implementors] RFC 3398 - ISUP/SIP mapping: 404 -> 
Unallocatednumber ??

> Hi, when I receive an INVITE from my provider SIP_PSTN gateway I do a 
> lookup
> in my internal ENUM.
> If the E164 number is mapped to a local SIP user (client of mine) I look 
> for
> it in the location server.
> If the user is registered I forwad the INVITE and so... all OK.
>
> The problem is in the case the SIP user is not registered (by any reason).
> Then my proxy replies "404 Not Found" to the provider SIP_PSTN gateway.
>
> RFC 3398 specifies that the ISUP mapped code for SIP "404" is:
>
>  
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  1 Unallocated number
>     This number is not in the routing table or it has no path across the 
> ISDN
>     cloud (network).
>         1. Check routing table to see it the number is available.
>         2. Check to make sure the correct digits were dialed and it is a
>             valid number.
>    
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> So my PSTN provider replies with ISUP "Unallocated number" and the caller
> provider "X" generates the typicall early media message to inform the 
> caller:
>  "Provider X informs you that the number you are calling doesn't exist"
>
> This is a big inconvenient since me, as telephony provider, am responsible 
> of
> generating that early media message. In fact, when I receive a call to a 
> non
> registered user I first reply with an own 183 Session Progress:
>  "My provider informs you that the number you are calling is not available
>    now"
> After the 183 I send a 404, so the gateway mappes it to "Unallocated 
> number"
> and the caller provider adds its own early media message... the caller
> listens to two early messages (mine first and him provider's one later)!!
>
>
>
> But the callee DOES exist, the only it occurs is that the SIP user is not
> registered, just it. The number DOES exist in my system, so I think it 
> would
> be better if my provider gateway would map the 404 to any of those ISUP
> causes:
>
>  
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  3  No route to destination.
>      The dialed number is in the routing plan, but there is no physical 
> route
>       to the destination.
>          1. The PRI D-Channel may be down at one end or the other.
>          2. The span or WAN is not connected correctly.
>  
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>  
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  20  Subscriber Absent.
>         Used when a mobile station has logged off, radio contact is not
>         obtained with a mobile station or if a personal telecommunications
>         user is temporarily not addressable at any user-network interface.
>  
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>  
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  27  Destination Out-of-Order.
>         This is a working number, but the span to the destination is not
>         active or there is a problem sending messages to this destination.
>  
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Unfortunatelly any of the above ISUP causes (decimal 3, 20, 27) exist as a 
> SIP
> code mapping in RFC 3398.
> As a very dirty solution I'm using now this RFC3398 mapping:
>
>  502 Bad gateway         --->              38 Network out of order
>
>  
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  38  Network Out-of-Order.
>         Indicates that the network is not functioning correctly and that 
> the
>         condition is likely to last a relatively long period of time.
>  
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> So if the caller is a movile he will be first listen to my provider early
> message, and later he will see "network failure" (or similar) into its
> screen. It's dirty but it's the best option I've found.
>
>
> Any suggestion to handle it more correctly? In short, I can't reply with 
> "404"
> since the caller will listen two early media messages and he will think 
> that
> the number doesn't exist.
>
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> -- 
> Iñaki Baz Castillo
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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