The questions are similar to the ones Harbhanu asked back in May.  When the 
UPDATE 2xx occurs, the timer/refresher is calculated based upon UPDATE 2xx.  
When the INVITE 2xx occurs, the timer/refresher is calculated based upon INVITE 
2xx.

https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/pipermail/sip-implementors/2010-May/025009.html 

http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip/current/msg27736.html 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:sip-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of shyam
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 6:30 AM
> To: 'SIP Satan'; 'Ravi Kumar'
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Regarding Rfc 4028
> 
> What should be the Final session refresh timer here?
> 
> 1600 or 1800 ?
> 
> The UE has changed the session-refresher timer to 1600 from initial
> 1800.
> But the UA is responding with 1800 as final session-expires.
> The RFC states that the final session-expires time interval can not be
> greater than the initial time interval.
> 
> Thanks,
> Shyam
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> SIP
> Satan
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 3:44 PM
> To: Ravi Kumar
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Regarding Rfc 4028
> 
> Ideal situation is UPDATE can carry same value for SE as INVITE's,
> Other
> option is UAS can overwrite session timer values with the latest
> received
> one (of  UPDATE's) and both 200 OK of UPDATE and INVITE can carry the
> updated one.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Ravi Kumar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  _____
> >
> > From: Ravi Kumar [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 7:27 PM
> > To: ''[email protected]'
> > Subject: Regarding Rfc 4028
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> >            I have call flow Like below.
> >
> >
> >
> > UE                  UE
> >
> >
> >
> > |                     |
> >
> > --------Inv----------> (Session Expire: 1800)
> >
> > |                     |
> >
> > <----------183-----
> >
> > |                     |
> >
> > ------update------->(Session Expire: 1600)
> >
> > |                     |
> >
> > <-------200-update (Session Expire: 1600;refresher=uas)
> >
> > |                     |
> >
> > <-------200-Inv--- (Session Expire: 1800;refresher=uas)
> >
> > |                     |
> >
> >
> >
> > Doubt:
> >
> >            1. When UAC is negotiating session timer value with INVITE
> > request, and session timer negotiation is not completed then UAC
> should
> not
> > start negotiation with UPDATE request. Because this behavior not
> defined
> by
> > RFC-4028. How does other implementation handles this at UAS side.
> >
> >            And UAC should send UPDATE request with Session Expire
> header
> > when INVITE negotiation is not completed.
> >
> >            2. Can UPDATE request start Session timer negotiation,
> because
> > it is used for session timer refresher?
> >
> >            3. What does RFC-4028 last response mean?


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