Dean, you are talking about a different case.

Nobody is suggesting that if you are given a SIPS URI you
should also assume that a SIP URI will work.

I think it's pretty obvious. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dean Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 22:53
> To: Paul Kyzivat
> Cc: Hisham Khartabil; sip@ietf.org; Audet, Francois (SC100:3055)
> Subject: Re: [Sip] SIPS question: How to prevent plaintext 
> requests from being delivered to a UA
> 
> Paul Kyzivat wrote:
> >
> > So you mean both a sip and sips contact would be registered 
> over the 
> > same (tls) flow. As Francois said, he proposed this long ago and it 
> > was rejected for a bunch of reasons. The only benefit I can see to 
> > this is as a way to indicate a policy regarding whether sip 
> requests 
> > are/aren't desired over this flow. Things will work just 
> fine without 
> > that policy (the UAS can simply reject them if it wishes). It 
> > complicates a lot of things so I prefer to stick with what 
> was already 
> > decided about this.
> 
> No, this DOESN'T work fine, as the privacy of the UAS's 
> AOR-to-Contact binding is compromised by sending the request 
> from the UAC, even if the UAS rejects the request.
> 
> If the sender KNEW that the UAS only accepted SIPS, this 
> compromise would not occur.
> 
> And if the sender is given only a SIPS URI for an AOR, the 
> sender MUST assume that the UAS accepts only SIPS requests 
> and MUST NOT send a request to that AOR using SIP. Otherwise, 
> the privacy of the UAS's AOR-to-Contact binding might be 
> compromised (and in security, one can assume that if it might 
> be compromised, it probably has been-- It's tainted).
> 
> --
> Dean
> 
> 

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