Yes, and the UAS or it's proxy can reject the request. 

That is covered.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 07:23
> To: Audet, Francois (SC100:3055)
> Cc: Dean Willis; sip@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Sip] SIPS question: How to prevent plaintext 
> requests from being delivered to a UA
> 
> 
> 
> Francois Audet wrote:
> 
> >> Yes, that's exactly my point. If you're given a SIPS URI, use it. 
> >> Don't downgrade to SIP. Ever. Not at a proxy, not at a UA, 
> not at a 
> >> user.
> > 
> > I think everybody agrees on this. 
> > 
> > So we are in agreement.
> 
> Well...
> 
> IMO its pointless to base any decisions on the assumption 
> that everyone will conform to the above.
> 
> It sounds good until a user with a UA that doesn't support 
> sips wants to call somebody that he only has a sips URI for. 
> At that point his choices
> are:
> - give up
> - try the downgraded URI
> 
> If there is *any* chance that downgrading will work then a 
> lot of users will try it. And even if there is *no* chance of 
> it working some number of users will try it. And its quite 
> likely that often the downgrading will be done by *mistake*, 
> by somebody that does understand there is a difference 
> between sip and sips.
> 
> And it probably *will* work in a lot of cases, because a lot 
> of people will want to support both.
> 
> So, you can say that users SHOULD NOT do it, or MUST NOT do 
> it, but assume that it will be done anyway.
> 
>       Paul
> 

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