I'm fine with that interpretation, too, because it keeps us away from using
MIME to negotiate and we keep negotiation in SDP (and SDP Cap Neg).

-d
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:10 PM
> To: Dan Wing
> Cc: 'Gonzalo Camarillo'; 'Francois Audet'; [email protected]; 
> 'Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)'
> Subject: Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME
> 
> Dan,
> 
> If I follow what you are saying then I disagree with the use case.
> 
> I believe the Content-Language specifies the language of the 
> text in the 
> body part, not the language that might be conveyed in a media stream 
> that is negotiated by the SDP in the body part.
> 
>       Paul
> 
> Dan Wing wrote:
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Gonzalo Camarillo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:57 AM
> >> To: Dan Wing
> >> Cc: 'Paul Kyzivat'; 'Francois Audet'; [email protected]; 'Christer 
> >> Holmberg (JO/LMF)'
> >> Subject: Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME
> >>
> >> Hi Dan,
> >>
> >> thanks for the pointers. It seems that we want to specify 
> that, for 
> >> multipart/alternative bodies whose content disposition is 
> >> "session" (or 
> >> early session), the content-types of all body parts MUST 
> be different.
> >>
> >> However, multipart/alternative bodies with a different 
> >> disposition type should follow the general MIME rules.
> > 
> > Yes, I concur.
> > 
> > You also brought up an interesting point with language.  
> One Might Consider
> > it reasonable to have multipart/alternative, with several 
> application/sdp
> > parts which differ in language (and probably different m/c 
> lines).  Your
> > document should probably provide a pointer to SDP's a=lang 
> and guidance
> > towards its use in conjunction with SDP Capability 
> Negotiation.  Sortof a
> > 'you might be tempted to use MIME constructs where SDP 
> should be used
> > instead'.  That is, if there is agreement that a=lang and 
> SDP Capability
> > Negotiation is the right way to select language.
> > 
> > (I'm thinking of situations where, for example, you want to 
> send an offer
> > for an English, German, or French announcement ("The dam 
> broke, please
> > evacuate to higher ground") or an IVR or a human telephone 
> operator).
> > 
> > -d
> > 
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Gonzalo
> >>
> >>
> >> Dan Wing wrote:
> >>> Paul Kyzivat wrote: 
> >>> ...
> >>>>>    OPEN ISSUE 2: we know that we do not want two SDPs in a 
> >>>>> 'multipart/
> >>>>>    alternative', but is this valid generally with any 
> >> content type?
> >>>>>    Would it be possible to provide two alternative body 
> >>>>> parts using the
> >>>>>    same format and, thus, the same content type but in, 
> >>>>> say, different
> >>>>>    languages?
> >>>> Its my understanding that the distinction is based on 
> which can be 
> >>>> understood, relative to Content-Type. It isn't apparent 
> to me that 
> >>>> making this decision based on other attributes is valid. For 
> >>>> one thing the parts are supposed to be ordered by increasing 
> >>>> richness.  If they differed by language this wouldn't be true.
> >>> Multipart/alternative is the best we have, though.  And who 
> >> is to say that
> >>> image/jpeg is richer than image/gif, or that english is 
> >> richer than latin?  
> >>> Anyway, the following RFCs standardize the use of 
> >> Content-Language and refer
> >>> to using multipart/alternative when providing support for multiple
> >>> languages:
> >>>
> >>>   http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3282
> >>>   http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3066
> >>>
> >>> -d
> >>>
> > 


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