Hi, Robert,

Spencer - I can't tell if you thought I was saying to hold moving info-harmful forward until
we had better answers or not - I wasn't.

My bad. It wasn't obvious to me from your otherwise-excellent note whether you were thinking of two separate documents.

I just wanted to make sure we would do something soon (at least measured in IETF years). Given that saying "don't go there" has taken four years since Jonathan's last update, I was concerned that saying "don't look here, look over there" would take more time than I was willing to spend continuing to point to an expired draft.

I have pointed this out previously in private e-mail, but http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-melanchuk-mediactrl-framework-00.txt is having to put forward its own analysis of "why not INFO" in Section 5 ("SIP Usage"), because Tim doesn't have anything we can refer to except an expired individual draft. I'd rather rely on a document done here than text in the MEDIACTRL framework document, just because I think the larger SIP community would look at text done here more closely than in a MEDIACTRL draft.

IMO, of course.

I'm saying we aren't done  just by moving it forward.

Ack.

It will help on its own, but we'll have to get to the guidance part quickly for it to really help much.

Double Ack.

RjS

Thanks for clarifying (so that I'm now clear :-).

Spencer



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