On Jun 8, 2007, at 6:34 AM, Spencer Dawkins wrote:
Two separate issues, both important...
(We need _more_ than just what's in your draft - we also need
Jonathan may remember that I asked about his draft in discussions
about the hitchhiker's guide. The answsr was, of course, that we
didn't have a reasonable reference to the draft, so couldn't tell
people who were trying to learn about SIP "don't go there" (until,
of course, they "go there" and submit draft-newbie-sip-whatever-
over-info-00).
So at the very least, we need an RFC number that's not in the draft
now!
guidance for people who are wanting to do new
things with INFO that points them to what we consider sane
alternatives instead.)
It would be OK with me if we ALSO had this type of guidance ("don't
look HERE, look over THERE") available ("stated strongly enough in
an easy to stumble across place"), but if coming up with that
guidance takes more than about a week, I don't see a lot of reason
to hold up on "don't go there" while we explore alternatives.
<rant>If we don't progress stuff like this, we can't be surprised
when the experts spend all their time explaining the same stuff
over and over again, onlist. New participants don't want to repeat
old bad ideas. They have plenty of opportunities to come up with
NEW bad ideas. This is a SIP community responsibility, not just
Jonathan's and not just the chairs' responsibility. Jonathan did
his part (in 2003), and Dean points to this draft about once a
month. We need to find a way to move past lather-rinse-repeat about
long-time semi-documented consensus.
IMO. Of course.
</rant>
Schrodinger's cat is out of the bag and off eating mice somewhere.
SIP is a transport protocol. INFO is its freight carrier. People have
used it and will use it in ways that make us queasy. The only thing
to do is to produce some guidelines about documenting those "ways"
and provide both registration and peer-negotiation for "ways" so that
we don't have a meltdown. Much like we did for event packages.
--
Dean
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