Henry Sinnreich skrev:
Following some discussions and soul searching, the best approach for
ICE-17 for LC would be to _go ahead and make it an experimental RFC_.
This would support the development of interoperable implementations, the
collection of deployment data and also hopefully open source code.
Though I have full faith in ICE, following the practices that made the
IETF successful take precedent here, I believe.
This is a change from the attached that I wrote on 7/16/2007.
Note: We can only hope the proliferation of SBC in VoIP service provider
networks will not make these concerns and ICE for SIP a moot issue, but
this is another topic.
Henry,
I don't quite understand why you are requesting a status change of ICE?
To me it appears that ICE is almost finished spec. It has been
implemented, used and feedback has been influencing the protocol. It is
definitly one of the better examples of current IETF work that actually
has running code. Sure, the implementations may not be fully updated yet
to the latest draft version. But I think it is safe to say that ICE
works in the intended core cases. If there are some corner cases where
it fails, that may be. But that is not information we will have until
really large scale deployement or someone makes very extensive tests.
I think the IETF and the Internet has much more benefit from a standards
track solution than any of the risks existing with ICE of today.
And to be clear, proposed standard is allowed to be published without a
single implementation exists. It might not be good practice, but it is
allowed by our process. And as I said before ICE has had enough
implementation that I am very confortable in balloting YES for it when
it appears on the IESGs table.
Cheers
Magnus Westerlund
IETF Transport Area Director & TSVWG Chair
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