You make it sound like there is some extra signaling involved in the 
subscriptions.  I thought we were talking about *implicit* subscriptions.  The 
only extra "signaling" would be event package negotiation exchange, presumably 
in headers in the Invite and responses.  Then a Notify for the events.  Or 
really instead of a NOTIFY, it could be a new method called "Invite-based 
Notification Function Output" or "INFO" for short. :)

Or do you just mean the negotiation needs to support both the concept of a uni 
and bi-directional implicit subscription?

-hadriel

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Salvatore Loreto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 4:09 AM
> To: Francois Audet
> Cc: IETF SIP List; Christer Holmberg; Dean Willis
> Subject: RE: [Sip] Francois' counter to INFO (was Re: What are we arguing
> about when we say INFO?)
>
>
>
> On Fri, 2007-10-12 at 09:50 -0500, Francois Audet wrote:
> >
> > > the proposal is interesting.
> > > However there should be cases where you need to send whatever
> > > information in both directions, or cases where when you send
> > > an information via Notify you need to receive back some
> > > information (e.g.
> > > the fact that you receive a 200Ok as answer to the Notify it
> > > is not enough).
> > > How do you think your proposal should work in those cases ?
> > > perhaps with
> > > 2 subscription one in each direction?
> >
> > Yes.
>
> OK, I agree on this.
> But maybe should be interesting a mechanism to discriminate when you
> need 2 subscription one in each direction, when one it is enough and in
> the case of only one subscription the possibility to choose in which
> direction you want to start it.
>
>
>
>
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