[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   From: "Vijay K. Gurbani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   We could nail a line in the sand and make this more concrete (i.e.,
   use between proxies only.)  Or we could take a middle road and allow
   implementors who have reflective connectivity between a UA and a
   (proxy) server use connect-reuse.  So far, the draft has been taking
   the middle road.

It's clear that connection-reuse can be done between a UA and a proxy
(or two UA's for that matter).  It doesn't solve the problem that
outbound solves, namely what if connections can only be opened in one
direction.  (connection-reuse implicitly assumes that whoever wants to
send a request first can open a connection.)  What we need to make
sure is that the two mechanisms don't interfere with each other.  This
probably isn't hard, no more than saying "if you're using outbound to
communicate with a SIP agent, don't use connection-use to talk to that
agent".

Agreed -- sounds good.  A version of such a statement is already
given in S2:

   2. Applicability Statement

   The applicability of the mechanism described in this document is for
   two adjacent SIP entities to reuse connections when they are agnostic
   about the direction of the connection, i.e., either end can initiate
   the connection.  SIP entities that can only open a connection in a
   specific direction -- perhaps because of Network Address Translation
   (NAT) and firewall reasons -- reuse their connections using the
   mechanism described in [9].

I can reword this to make the outbound part more explicit; something
like:

   2. Applicability Statement

   The applicability of the mechanism described in this document is for
   two adjacent SIP entities to reuse connections when they are agnostic
   about the direction of the connection, i.e., either end can initiate
   the connection.  If connections can only be opened in one direction,
   perhaps due to the existence of firewalls and Network Address
   Translators (NATs), then the mechanism described by Jennings and
   Mahy [9] MUST be used instead.

Okay?

- vijay
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