Right but these talk about adding 'ob' to the contact header. The text I
am referring to (1st para in section 4.3) talks about including the
outbound option-tag in the supported header. I guess this goes in
conjunction with including the ob parameter in the contact header? If
that is the case I did not make the connection till just now.

Kevin 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rohan Mahy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:10 PM
To: Kevin Johns
Cc: Sumanth Channabasappa; Francois Audet; [email protected]; Cullen
Jennings; Rohan Mahy
Subject: RE: [Sip] Outbound-12 comments

Hi Kevin,

> Ok, so I don't recall any of this being discussed in outbound. So I 
> think some text is in order to explain why the UA includes this and 
> what the edge proxy is expected to do as a result.

Its already there.  UA behavior from the 3rd paragraph of Section 4.3:

>If the UAC is sending a dialog-forming request, and wants all 
>subsequent requests in the dialog to arrive over the same flow, the UAC
adds an 'ob'
>parameter to its Contact header. Typically this is desirable, but it is

>not necessary for example if the Contact is a [GRUU]. The flow used for

>the request is typically the same flow the UA registered over, but it 
>could be a new flow, for example the initial subscription dialog for 
>the [configuration framework] needs to exist before registration.

Edge proxy behavior is the same as that for any other dialog forming
request and is described in the last paragraph of Section 5.3.

thanks,
-rohan


> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sumanth Channabasappa
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:42 PM
> To: Kevin Johns; 'Francois Audet'; '[email protected]'
> Cc: 'Cullen Jennings'; 'Rohan Mahy'
> Subject: RE: [Sip] Outbound-12 comments
>
> Kevin,
>
> That is my understanding. This would support bootstrapping 
> configuration (prior to registration).
>
> - S
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Johns
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:34 PM
> To: Francois Audet; Sumanth Channabasappa; [email protected]
> Cc: Cullen Jennings; Rohan Mahy
> Subject: RE: [Sip] Outbound-12 comments
>
> So this would seem to imply that the presence of outbound in the 
> support header indicates that a flow should be established and the 
> Edge Proxy record route with a flow token in order for the resulting 
> NOTIFY to be delivered in the absence of the UA having registered?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francois Audet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:27 PM
> To: Sumanth Channabasappa; Kevin Johns; [email protected]
> Cc: Cullen Jennings; Rohan Mahy
> Subject: RE: [Sip] Outbound-12 comments
>
> Like the SUBSCRIBE in the example call flow section (the first one).
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sumanth Channabasappa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 14:25
>> To: Kevin Johns; Audet, Francois (SC100:3055); [email protected]
>> Cc: Cullen Jennings; Rohan Mahy
>> Subject: RE: [Sip] Outbound-12 comments
>>
>> > Section 4.3, Sending Non-REGISTER Requests, 1st paragraph -
>> "UAs that
>> > support this specification SHOULD include the outbound
>> option tag in a
>>
>> > Supported header field in a non-Register REGISTER request."
>> What is a
>> > non-Register REGISTER request?
>>
>> >>I think this is a typo: it should say "non-Register request.".
>>
>> > Further why is this recommended? I did not see this
>> information being
>> > used by the edge proxy elsewhere in the document?
>>
>> >>That is a good question. Rohan? Cullen?
>>
>> [S] An example of a non-REGISTER request is a SIP SUBSCRIBE message. 
>> I
>
>> am guessing this requirement refers to the use of outbound in such 
>> cases. (We use the 'ob' parameter within the SIP Configuration
>> Framework.)
>>
>>
>> - S
>>
>

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