> Right but these talk about adding 'ob' to the contact header. The text I
> am referring to (1st para in section 4.3) talks about including the
> outbound option-tag in the supported header. I guess this goes in
> conjunction with including the ob parameter in the contact header? If
> that is the case I did not make the connection till just now.

Kevin,

You *always* include Supported: outbound if you support outbound.  This is
just normal RFC 3261 option-tag behavior.  This has no special
relationship with the 'ob' parameter.

thanks,
-rohan


> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rohan Mahy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:10 PM
> To: Kevin Johns
> Cc: Sumanth Channabasappa; Francois Audet; [email protected]; Cullen
> Jennings; Rohan Mahy
> Subject: RE: [Sip] Outbound-12 comments
>
> Hi Kevin,
>
>> Ok, so I don't recall any of this being discussed in outbound. So I
>> think some text is in order to explain why the UA includes this and
>> what the edge proxy is expected to do as a result.
>
> Its already there.  UA behavior from the 3rd paragraph of Section 4.3:
>
>>If the UAC is sending a dialog-forming request, and wants all
>>subsequent requests in the dialog to arrive over the same flow, the UAC
> adds an 'ob'
>>parameter to its Contact header. Typically this is desirable, but it is
>
>>not necessary for example if the Contact is a [GRUU]. The flow used for
>
>>the request is typically the same flow the UA registered over, but it
>>could be a new flow, for example the initial subscription dialog for
>>the [configuration framework] needs to exist before registration.
>
> Edge proxy behavior is the same as that for any other dialog forming
> request and is described in the last paragraph of Section 5.3.
>
> thanks,
> -rohan
>
>
>> Kevin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sumanth Channabasappa
>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:42 PM
>> To: Kevin Johns; 'Francois Audet'; '[email protected]'
>> Cc: 'Cullen Jennings'; 'Rohan Mahy'
>> Subject: RE: [Sip] Outbound-12 comments
>>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> That is my understanding. This would support bootstrapping
>> configuration (prior to registration).
>>
>> - S
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kevin Johns
>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:34 PM
>> To: Francois Audet; Sumanth Channabasappa; [email protected]
>> Cc: Cullen Jennings; Rohan Mahy
>> Subject: RE: [Sip] Outbound-12 comments
>>
>> So this would seem to imply that the presence of outbound in the
>> support header indicates that a flow should be established and the
>> Edge Proxy record route with a flow token in order for the resulting
>> NOTIFY to be delivered in the absence of the UA having registered?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Francois Audet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:27 PM
>> To: Sumanth Channabasappa; Kevin Johns; [email protected]
>> Cc: Cullen Jennings; Rohan Mahy
>> Subject: RE: [Sip] Outbound-12 comments
>>
>> Like the SUBSCRIBE in the example call flow section (the first one).
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sumanth Channabasappa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 14:25
>>> To: Kevin Johns; Audet, Francois (SC100:3055); [email protected]
>>> Cc: Cullen Jennings; Rohan Mahy
>>> Subject: RE: [Sip] Outbound-12 comments
>>>
>>> > Section 4.3, Sending Non-REGISTER Requests, 1st paragraph -
>>> "UAs that
>>> > support this specification SHOULD include the outbound
>>> option tag in a
>>>
>>> > Supported header field in a non-Register REGISTER request."
>>> What is a
>>> > non-Register REGISTER request?
>>>
>>> >>I think this is a typo: it should say "non-Register request.".
>>>
>>> > Further why is this recommended? I did not see this
>>> information being
>>> > used by the edge proxy elsewhere in the document?
>>>
>>> >>That is a good question. Rohan? Cullen?
>>>
>>> [S] An example of a non-REGISTER request is a SIP SUBSCRIBE message.
>>> I
>>
>>> am guessing this requirement refers to the use of outbound in such
>>> cases. (We use the 'ob' parameter within the SIP Configuration
>>> Framework.)
>>>
>>>
>>> - S
>>>
>>
>

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