> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francois Audet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:04 PM
> To: Dan Wing
> Cc: [email protected]; Paul Kyzivat; Juha Heinanen
> Subject: RE: [Sip] E.164 - who owns it
> 
> Well, you can still do video over PSTN with H.320. I still 
> view this as "telephony".

Sorry -- please pick something you cannot do over the PSTN.  Instant
Messaging, presence, high-quality video (HDTV), whatever.

> Not sure I understand the question.

Let me reword my previous email into a question:

If you have a non-SIP telephony application that trunks towards the PSTN, and
it is configured to process tel URIs, and it is asked to initiate a call that
exceeds the capabilities of the PSTN (instant messaging, presence,
HDTV-quality video, whatever you prefer) -- would it route the call towards a
"SIP trunk" in order to gain the ability to set up that call, abort the call,
or just ignore it all and trunk towards the PSTN?

An additional question (statement, actually) is:  We can't influence how that
non-SIP telephony application provides for its own identity and authentication
of tel URIs.

(This is getting me to lean more towards my email-identity straw-man.  With
it, we can step out of this festering, smelly pile of trying to get E.164
working well with SIP and move to email-style SIP URIs.  The IETF is capable
of building an end-to-end identity/authentication solution around email-style
SIP URIs; we have one (RFC4474) that works if we prohibit SBCs and B2BUAs from
modifying SDP).

-d

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