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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Henry Sinnreich
>
> 3. The main deliverable of a WG is free software to validate and support
> the
> protocol document and its refinement. If no free software is contributed,
> the WG activity should be suspended. Internet-Drafts not supported by
> freely
> available software (that can be inspected and tried out) and measurements
> cannot be proven right or wrong and should therefore be ignored.
> There is plenty of IEEE and University work to prove this approach, which
> was also the basis for the rise and success of the IETF.

Since when is the main deliverable of the IETF free software?

The main deliverable of the IETF is documentation, for the purpose of achieving 
interoperability, to make the Internet better.  That's it. (i.e., RFC 3935)  
Open source implementation is one means to an end goal, not the end goal itself.

And as it is, I think some of the extensions in SIP have *only* been 
implemented in open source software and never seen the light of day in real 
world use even of that open source software. (or in any degree one would 
consider "broad use")  In that sense, maybe we should only continue work in 
things that have seen commercial implementation! ;)

-hadriel
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