> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> Meaning that it's far from clear how fledgling reputation services are
> going to use these identities. What exactly does a signed P-A-I mean
> even if we had one? What might a receiver or third party do differently
> vs. a signed from, say? Especially when you factor in that P-A-I is
> big smelly hack?

Yes, another elephant. :)
A PASS-signed PAI means the asserter generated it for this message.  Right now 
we have multi-domain exchanges of SIP messages with PAI header fields being 
used for caller-id.  I don't know what-all a receiver might do with the signed 
information (though I could guess).  I am only offering to give it more 
information.  Some folks are telling me they would like to know that the 
caller-id is legit.  I can't.  I can only tell them that a node which generated 
a caller-id also owns a cert from a CA they trust, so they have some recourse 
if it ends up being wrong.  I have no (practical) way to verify the caller-id 
directly. (And neither does 4474 or DKIM)


> Waiting-and-seeing what the reputation folks actually need versus guessing
> what they might need, maybe, someday seems prudent to me. That's
> doubly true because there's not been much if any uptake of 4474 and
> I'm guessing that lack of coverage of P-A-I is not one of the reasons.
> Concentrating on _that_ problem seem to me the paramount concern.

There has not been any uptake of 4474 for a bunch of reasons, not the least of 
which is there's no problem yet, and for some/many cases we know it won't work. 
 I have no doubt a PASS signature is not the be-all-end-all solution.  But I do 
know it takes years to get something spec'ed, implemented, tested, and deployed 
in any scale that will matter.  So I'm trying to do a short-cut, instead of 
waiting for a problem: thus, an informational P-header.

-hadriel
_______________________________________________
Sip mailing list  https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip
This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol
Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for questions on current sip
Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for new developments on the application of sip

Reply via email to