You can use the "HELD" protocol, rather than a SIP SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY for the
dereference, if that makes it seem simpler to you.  SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY is
quite simple, and most devices and services implement it for other reasons.

We have discussed using cell-id as a representation mechanism, but have been
told, many times, that operators will not divulge location of cell ids
beyond the immediate network, which makes this form of location entirely
unsuitable for the range of applications we envisioned.   If you have
different information, please share it.

On the other hand, even if we did allow cell id as a form of location, it
would be inside a PIDF-LO, and thus would need to be in a body.

I don't think putting actual location in the header is a good idea, as it
cannot be protected against inadvertent disclosure.  That would be a problem
in the IETF.

Brian
________________________________________
From: Bartłomiej Kołakowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Subject: draft-ietf-sip-location-conveyance - Question about potential usage
of the Geolocation header

Hello, 
I have got such concern regarding location conveyance in SIP messages: I am
designing IMS Appilcation Server, acting as a proxy, that would query
network elements for location information. As you wrote proxies cannot
insert message body, so the only way is to provide location by reference.
This requires appling SUBSCRIBE-NOTIFY mechanism, which makes the
architecture of the solution quit complex.
In order to make it simpler I thought about including location information
as locationValue inside the Geolocation header. In fact we do not need
location represented with coordinates, but with cell-id (that's mobile
network). PIDF-LO does not support it, but maybe inside a header that would
be possible? There would be also an issue in indicating loaction target
whose location is included (we plan to include both A and B parties
location). Geolocation header would look like this:
Geolocation: {cell-id-3gpp}
;location-target="[EMAIL PROTECTED]";inserted-by="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
What do you think about souch a usage of Geolocation header, maybe you could
give us some other solution? 
Thank you in advance, 
Bartłomiej Kołakowski 
Service Solutions Architect 
Service Development Support Department 
Polkomtel S.A 
tel. 601131509 

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