(As individual)

At the moment I think this draft should concentrate on the packages, and
interoperability with the legacy issues.

I don't think I want to identify (except by way of example for the
above) any of the legacy usages.

I do not have an objection to creating another draft that creates a
registry of legacy usages, and if that wants to list known ones then
fine. I have no objection if we do that now or later, but the main draft
would not be dependent on it.

I would note that if we do create a registry, then whether we need to
seed it or not depends on the registration criteria - if it is first
come first served, then anyone can register their own legacy usages
without waiting for an RFC to do it for them. 

At the moment I am also unsure what criteria we would use for identifing
a legacy usage, apart from some rather vague textual description. It
after all does not have a package name. 

So I'll accept either of these:

> [ ] No - please do not create an IANA registry
> 
> [ ] Punt - I may or may not want an IANA registry, but if we 
> do create one, do it in another draft

regards

Keith

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Eric Burger
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:14 PM
> To: Paul Kyzivat
> Cc: SIP IETF
> Subject: [Sip] Legacy Info Package Registration
> 
> We discussed creating a registry, and we discussed whether it 
> would be in this document.
> 
> On the one hand, the discussion was not conclusive.  On the 
> other, here are my reasons for not including it in the Info 
> Packages document:
> 
> 1. We go at lengths to say how to do Info Packages.  The last 
> thing we need to do is say, "by the way, it's not so bad if 
> you don't."
> 
> 2. People not involved today will look at such a registry 
> and, no matter how much doom and gloom wording we use, will 
> think it's OK to not use Info Packages.
> 
> 3. People will be confused, thinking Content-Type is 
> sufficient to identify an Info Package.  It is not.
> 
> 4. How would we possibly police the registry? If someone 
> comes to IANA to register a new MIME type do the klaxons 
> ring?  That would not be a good thing.
> 
> So, time for another poll:
> [ ] Yes - we really, really need an IANA registry of "legacy" 
> INFO usages, and we need it done in this draft
>      (NOTE: creating the IANA registry requires the seed 
> values, which means this draft will enumerate the
>       known legacy usages)
> 
> [ ] No, do not create an IANA registry, but please enumerate 
> known legacy usages in this draft
> 
> [ ] No - please do not create an IANA registry
> 
> [ ] Punt - I may or may not want an IANA registry, but if we 
> do create one, do it in another draft
> 
> [ ] Other: ________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 21, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
> 
> > Regarding registration if INFO packages - I thought we also 
> wanted to 
> > introduce a registry for legacy usages of INFO, to 
> encourage them to 
> > come out into the daylight. I guess maybe that would be a separate 
> > registry, since the key for it will have to be Content- Type. So it 
> > *could* be established from a different document. But I 
> think this is 
> > the likely place to do it, since its the place where all 
> the eyeballs 
> > will be. I think the rule for registering those needs to be 
> that one 
> > can only be registered if the Content-Type has not already been 
> > registered, and it was in *use* with INFO prior to this document 
> > becoming an RFC. (The registration itself could be done 
> later. I guess 
> > it would be the honor system.) Any usages being deployed after this 
> > becomes an RFC would be required to use the new mechanism.
> 
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