OK, at least the answers are the ones I was expecting to get.

You mentioned something like "dialog-set". I'm not certain yet if "set" is the proper term here. But assume for the moment that it is.

Then what you really have is a "dialog-set-id" right? Not a session-id.

It would be good to have a formal definition of a dialog-set. That would help with sorting out when individual dialogs get the same dialog-set-id. It might also go a long way toward providing a basis for defining an SBC and what it can/can't do. (I suspect that an SBC creates dialog-sets, and other B2BUAs do not.)

        Thanks,
        Paul

Hadriel Kaplan wrote:

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If a B2BUA (B) is doing 3pcc:

                 |------ C
                 |
        A ------ B
                 |
                 |------ D

and it first connects A to C, and later transfers the call to D, will A
and C and D all have the same Session-Id?

Yes, under the current model it would.  It's not a necessary scenario to have 
the same Session-ID, IMO, but it's covered that way. (but clearly the 
remote-tag would not match if D sent a Subscribe to A)


Then take same picture, but make B be a conference focus, to which A, C
and D are all connected. Will they ever have the same Session-Id?

As currently defined no, it would not.  I talked to some people about that at 
the IETF meeting, and they thought that was the right thing to do, as do I; but 
we couldn't define a textual explanation of what properties made that right.


Also, how are dialog event packages supposed to work? Is it expected
that they will be extended to contain Session-Ids?

Yes.  As an optional XML element update to them, which only gets used for 
matching if the call-id element did not match.

-hadriel
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