With mixed systems of ITSP and PSTN there is a problem with MOH:
If MOH is turned ON for the sipxbridge and OFF on all the phones then
any call to/from other Gateways e.g. Audiocodes ISDN
PRI/BRI/Analogue/unmanaged SIP trunks then NO MOH will be heard for any
of those transfer scenarios.

C.



-----Original Message-----
From: Steinmann, Martin (BL60:2500) 
Sent: 25 November 2008 02:10
To: M. Ranganathan
Cc: Worley, Dale (BL60:9D30); sipx-dev; Parfitt, Christopher (MOP:9D30)
Subject: RE: [sipX-dev] Why does bt.com return 503 on this re-INVITE

>
>On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Martin Steinmann
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>BT.COM :
>>>
>>>By experimentation I have been able to conclude:
>>>
>>>1. Does not handle REFER although it claims to do so on the basis of
>>>Allow: ( sends BYE right away and no RE-INVITE if I send him the 
>>>REFER).
>>>2. Does not handle codec renegotiation unless I do SDP answer in ACK 
>>>before sending a re-invite ( why? ) 3. I have also found bt.com gives

>>>you only about 20 seconds of ringing before it hangs up.
>>>
>>>
>>>CONCLUSION:  BT.com will only work correctly for all call flows if 
>>>sipxbridge handles the transfer. To effect this you have to turn OFF 
>>>MOH on the phone and turn it ON for the bridge.  Other configurations

>>>will not work for all transfers and besides you will get dead air 
>>>when the transfer target is ringing.  You must also turn OFF RTP 
>>>Keepalive or your call is dropped when doing the transfer  ( media 
>>>bridge on their end cannot deal with RTP packets it does not
recognize ).
>>>
>>
>> How are we going to either automate or clearly explain dependencies 
>> such as "For BT you have to turn MOH OFF on the phone"?
>> --martin
>
>
>In general, for ALL ITSPs, since none handle REFER, the requirement is 
>that for them to work, without dead air when the phone is ringing on 
>blind transfer, you must turn on MOH for the bridge and turn off MOH 
>for the phone. This fundamentally changes the way in which the phone 
>behaves and allows sipxbridge to handle the transfer. That is the 
>recommended configuration.

That is the fact the admin needs to be told. 


>
>Well behaved ITSPs will work in other configurations ( i.e. MOH turned 
>off on both or just on one  or even on both if you dont care about 
>garbled MOH under certain circumstances),  but in the case of BT.com, 
>it fails for caller initiated transfer unless you have MOH support 
>disabled  on the phone and enabled on the bridge, thus forcing the 
>phone to interact with the bridge for the transfer and thereby allowing

>the bridge to handle the transfer.  I am sure if I tweak enough I can 
>improve on this restriction but the correct solution is to have BT 
>address the problem with re-INVITE processing for PBX initiated blind 
>transfers of outbound calls. I will communicate this to their engineer.
>
>
>
> To communicate this configuration  clearly to end users : I suggest 
>that in the ITSP template for bt.com we place some configuration hints 
>(i.e. words)  in the wizard page to this effect.

Could you open an issue on this?   Are there other such cases we need to
document in the form of a help text?  How about mixed configs with SIP
trunks and traditional PSTN GWs?
--martin



>
>Ranga
>
>



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