On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Christopher Parfitt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With mixed systems of ITSP and PSTN there is a problem with MOH:
> If MOH is turned ON for the sipxbridge and OFF on all the phones then
> any call to/from other Gateways e.g. Audiocodes ISDN
> PRI/BRI/Analogue/unmanaged SIP trunks then NO MOH will be heard for any
> of those transfer scenarios.
>
> C.


I guess we will need to bring up the re-INVITE issue with bt.com. If
they can maybe tell us why they are sending 503 that would help. I'll
send a wireshark capture to you.

Ranga
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steinmann, Martin (BL60:2500)
> Sent: 25 November 2008 02:10
> To: M. Ranganathan
> Cc: Worley, Dale (BL60:9D30); sipx-dev; Parfitt, Christopher (MOP:9D30)
> Subject: RE: [sipX-dev] Why does bt.com return 503 on this re-INVITE
>
>>
>>On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Martin Steinmann
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>BT.COM :
>>>>
>>>>By experimentation I have been able to conclude:
>>>>
>>>>1. Does not handle REFER although it claims to do so on the basis of
>>>>Allow: ( sends BYE right away and no RE-INVITE if I send him the
>>>>REFER).
>>>>2. Does not handle codec renegotiation unless I do SDP answer in ACK
>>>>before sending a re-invite ( why? ) 3. I have also found bt.com gives
>
>>>>you only about 20 seconds of ringing before it hangs up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>CONCLUSION:  BT.com will only work correctly for all call flows if
>>>>sipxbridge handles the transfer. To effect this you have to turn OFF
>>>>MOH on the phone and turn it ON for the bridge.  Other configurations
>
>>>>will not work for all transfers and besides you will get dead air
>>>>when the transfer target is ringing.  You must also turn OFF RTP
>>>>Keepalive or your call is dropped when doing the transfer  ( media
>>>>bridge on their end cannot deal with RTP packets it does not
> recognize ).
>>>>
>>>
>>> How are we going to either automate or clearly explain dependencies
>>> such as "For BT you have to turn MOH OFF on the phone"?
>>> --martin
>>
>>
>>In general, for ALL ITSPs, since none handle REFER, the requirement is
>>that for them to work, without dead air when the phone is ringing on
>>blind transfer, you must turn on MOH for the bridge and turn off MOH
>>for the phone. This fundamentally changes the way in which the phone
>>behaves and allows sipxbridge to handle the transfer. That is the
>>recommended configuration.
>
> That is the fact the admin needs to be told.
>
>
>>
>>Well behaved ITSPs will work in other configurations ( i.e. MOH turned
>>off on both or just on one  or even on both if you dont care about
>>garbled MOH under certain circumstances),  but in the case of BT.com,
>>it fails for caller initiated transfer unless you have MOH support
>>disabled  on the phone and enabled on the bridge, thus forcing the
>>phone to interact with the bridge for the transfer and thereby allowing
>
>>the bridge to handle the transfer.  I am sure if I tweak enough I can
>>improve on this restriction but the correct solution is to have BT
>>address the problem with re-INVITE processing for PBX initiated blind
>>transfers of outbound calls. I will communicate this to their engineer.
>>
>>
>>
>> To communicate this configuration  clearly to end users : I suggest
>>that in the ITSP template for bt.com we place some configuration hints
>>(i.e. words)  in the wizard page to this effect.
>
> Could you open an issue on this?   Are there other such cases we need to
> document in the form of a help text?  How about mixed configs with SIP
> trunks and traditional PSTN GWs?
> --martin
>
>
>
>>
>>Ranga
>>
>>
>
>
>
>



-- 
M. Ranganathan
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