Scott Lawrence wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 11:04 -0500, Robert Joly wrote:
>>>> Damian, I finally found some time to look up the work you had done.
>> Probably but some stories lead to confusing configuration.  Consider an
>> Ottawa location where you have a set of designer phones and a set of
>> guest phones.  For such a deployment, one may create two groups:
>> "designers" and "guests", the first one having many permissions and the
>> second one have a narrow set of permissions however, the administrator
>> would like to have phones from either group use the same local gateway.
>> In order to facilitate such a configuration using the current
>> "group~=location" paradigm, the admin would have to create a
>> permission-less group called "Ottawa" as well as the already mentioned
>> "designers" and "guests" groups.  It would have to assign every designer
>> to groups "Ottawa" and "Designers" in that order and every guest to
>> groups "Ottawa" and "Guests" in that order.  From a management
>> point-of-view, this is not as straight-forward as it could be and is
>> error-prone as things will not behave as expected if you put the groups
>> in the wrong order.
> 
> Actually, my understanding is that the group hierarchy is fixed - it
> depends on the order of the groups in the groups list, not on how they
> are entered.   (is this right Damian?)
> 

You can change the group priority by re-ordering them on the group screen.
The order in which you enter the group names on a user screen does not matter.
It's easy to keep you geographical based groups above you organizational
groups.

>> This configuration is much simplified if groups and users can be
>> assigned locations.  All that would be required here would be to set the
>> locations of "Designers" and "Guests" groups to "Ottawa".
> 
> But since users can be in multiple groups, you're right back where you
> started with possible conflicts.
> 

That's correct. Introducing a designated location concept in UI (which
again - I am not really arguing against) will not change the fact that
group order will influence the location.

And think about it like that: people who are in Ottawa probably will have
other common things than just which gateway should be used: so admin would
probably have a group for them anyway. Asking admin to also create a
location and assign it to that group is asking admin to do more things.


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