i've asked in fs-users for help understanding the licensingfor mp3/mod_shout.

ogg is horrible for so many end user reasons...

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:30 AM, M. Ranganathan <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Tony Graziano
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Martin Steinmann <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Tony Graziano
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Good to know. It certainly varies site to site. I think Ranga was
>>>>> considering conference recordings, so a 90 minute recording could
>>>>> easily be around 100MB (+/-). 10 per month is a gig, and 12 months is
>>>>> 12GB. So depending upon use cases, I see how it could get very large
>>>>> indeed.
>>>>
>>>>10 conferences per month is easy to envision.
>>>>
>>>>Perhaps a good middle ground could be that voicemail is not compressed
>>>>whereas conference recordings are compressed. Another middle ground
>>>>could be to run an archiver that compresses conference recordings and
>>>>voice mails after a few days. If the user wanted to play archived
>>>>recordings, he would need to download them, unzip and play.
>>>>
>>>>Ranga
>>>
>>> Maybe I am missing something, but why zip?  The proposed user experience to
>>> download, unzip and then listen seems very cumbersome.  There are so many
>>> compression techniques invented for audio, why not use one of them?
>>> --martin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Does anyone have a way to ask the guys at FS how they comply (or
>> don't) with the MP3 licensing with mod_shout?
>>
>> I agree and understand the need to save space. I just wonder why we'd
>> not combine two needs into one instead of using a different method for
>> each purpose.
>>
>> If it is compressed in any type of zip format, then the file stays
>> larger and gets transported around multiple places (email, web sites
>> hosts, etc.), and then consumes that much more in storage space and
>> bandwidth wherever it is used every time it is accessed.
>>
>> MP3 will also solve some issues with the embedded audio file in
>> sipxconfig UI, because I believe both firefox and IE would be able to
>> use the embedded code to play those voicemails, though right now just
>> firefox can.
>
>
> That is exactly the problem with mp3. I believe OGG may be a better
> choice because of patent issues and but I am but I am not certain if
> both browsers support it.
>
>
> As for zipping, it would only be done for archiving and the admin can
> decide the archiving policy. Yes it would be cumbersome. It would
> involve the additional step of unzipping (either at the server or the
> client) before listening to audio but it would only apply for archived
> files.
>
> Ranga
>
>>
>> The same method (which already exists) can be used to play conference
>> MP3's and actually be "available" to more devices than a WAV file. At
>> least, this is what i think.
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>>
>
>
>
> --
> M. Ranganathan
>



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Tony Graziano, Manager
Telephone: 434.984.8430
sip: [email protected]
Fax: 434.984.8431

Email: [email protected]

LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
Telephone: 434.984.8426
sip: [email protected]
Fax: 434.984.8427

Helpdesk Contract Customers:
http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/

Why do mathematicians always confuse Halloween and Christmas?
Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec.
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