Right. I have NEVER heard of an ITSP rejecting the call JUST because of
that. When I read the descriptions and searched to see who else had a
problem with it I was somewhat amazed that it was a problem for any ITSP not
accepting a call for that reason...

I do think it makes sense to create a ACME template in this case if all of
the other tests pass, for a SR-Acme (Strict Route Acme). This ITSP also
sends the DID in the TO header, so this is doubly troublesome.  Before I go
to that trouble of doucmenting it though, the ITSP needs to be able to do
HOLD, TRANSFER, etc.

I honestly wonder if exposing the option won't create more problems, so
maybe having a generic template or two that handle the option differently
will suffice if they pass basic function tests. Not holding my breath.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:04 PM, M. Ranganathan <[email protected]> wrote:

> The loose-routing flag on the route header was introduced in RFC 3261.
>
> If the carrier cannot handle loose routing this is a fairly good
> indication that it is using pre-RFC 3261 stack ( although this is not
> necessarily the case ).
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Tony Graziano
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In this case I think the carrier sucks raw eggs, but not just because of
> > this...
> > the ;lr indicator tells the proxy where the calls is sent that there are
> is
> > not just the single route entry as a valid target in the route header.
> > Strict versus loose routing (there are more than one "right answer").
> > Route: <sip:loligo.com;lr>
> > <sip:proxy01.lologo.com;lr>
> > <sip:1.2.3.4;lr>
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Douglas Hubler <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Not knowing a whole lot about this parameter, I think it should be
> >> configurable with full description on implications of turning it on.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Tony Graziano
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > Does anyone have an opinion that the tag
> >> >     <loose-route-invite>true</loose-route-invite>
> >> > should be made configurable in sipxbridge?
> >> > I ran across one tempermental ITSP that requires it (supposedly). I
> can
> >> > edit
> >> > it and restart services to temporarily see if that changes the
> "reason'
> >> > they
> >> > are failing the calls (according to them).
> >> > I suspect that as a TRUNK, ;lr is not an issue, but it is on the
> >> > handsets
> >> > only depending on the switch/switch type you connect to. I think this
> is
> >> > a
> >> > case of an ITSP "calling" themselves commercial and really centered
> >> > around
> >> > residential/consumer traffic so they require this to be OFF from the
> >> > client
> >> > (i.e.no ;lr tag). This is the kind of thing that makes me want to say
> >> > "run
> >> > very fast, get a real provider", but I wanted opinions.
> >> > I suspect it might be relatively easy to add the option to make it
> >> > configurable, but realistically, is it resonable for a trunk provider
> to
> >> > refuse a call because it is there. I think it is NOT reasonable, but
> >> > that's
> >> > me.
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