Note: I havne't done much testing of LDAP and IM yet, so my comment may or may 
not be applicable. I think the Administrator should be able to choose LDAP only 
or LDAP with fallback. It should never fallback to DB auth without the Admin 
knowing it's going to happen. As long as that base is covered I think it is a 
good idea.

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kumaran
Sent: March-25-11 7:29 AM
To: sipXecs developer discussions; Mircea Carasel
Subject: Re: [sipx-dev] LDAP

Mircea Carasel wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Tony Graziano 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>     On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Mircea Carasel <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
>
>         On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Kumaran
>         <[email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>             Hi All,
>                If LDAP server is not running we cannot Authenticate
>             the openfire
>             and LDAP only for user Portal for LDAP user
>
>             As a improvement
>                 If openfire and LDAP only authentication is enabled in
>             setting Page
>             and if LDAP server was not running then that time user in
>             SipXecs should
>             able to access the Xmpp account and user Portal.(ie when
>             LDAP server was
>             not running openfire and LDAP only authentication should
>             need not be
>             verified) So this improvement make sense?
>
>         Well, IMHO, I think that we should not blindly fall-back to
>         database authentication when ldap server is down. I think this
>         is confusing for the user
>         The superadmin can always log-in (superadmin always gets
>         authenticated against database) and verify the LDAP and if
>         necessary
>         change the authentication scheme in the authentication
>         settings page.
>
>
>     So what happens in the meantime if LDAP is down somehow? A user
>     cannot login? 
>
>     Does this mean once LDAP is configured it is relying solely on
>     LDAP and that user credentials are not stored and authed against
>     directly from the local database. Since that is there shouldn't it
>     be more "reliable" to have an auth service available than "not
>     available" and requiring admin attention?
>
> Users are always imported in sipXconfig database from LDAP (LDAP auth 
> never works if users are not imported in sipxconfig db), so there is 
> always the alternative to authenticate against DB. The admin can 
> change the authentication scheme to lets say: LDAP and PIN 
> authentication from the settings page
>
>
>     If not, is there an alarm of any sort set against it to alert the
>     admin before the angry mobs start banging on a door?
>
> There is nothing to alert the admin that ldap went down as far as I 
> know. Anyway, I think that an error message to be displayed on user 
> page when the user tries to login and ldap is down would be OK.
> Mircea
>
>      
>
>
>         Mircea
>
     Hi Mircea,
          I hope,that would be better.Same thing  can be done for IM client 
that tries to authenticate LDAP-openfire when LDAP  server is down?Please let 
me know
          the update.

     FYI :             
          Laurentiu  have fixed the issue XX-9490.We can Authenticate 
LDAP-openfire using both Anonymous and User/password Access.Hence I 
closed the issue.              
>
>
>             Thanks,
>              Kumaran T
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