On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Tony Graziano
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Forgive me for butting in.
>
> I am trying to ascertain what Ranga means when the call is transferred. Is
> the audio being played while the transfer in progress considered "park" or
> "moh'. I ask because it will make a difference to the audio file being
> played, and i would assume the call is "on hold" and the "moh" file will be
> played instead of "park" audio, which can be two different things.
>
> sipXbridge does play the default "moh" audio while transferring, (not park)
> right?

Correct. The park server is the one that plays the audio. The audio
that is played is the default MOH audio.


Ranga


>
>>>> On 2/26/2009 at 11:49 AM, in message
>>>> <[email protected]>, "M.
>>>> Ranganathan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Dale Worley <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 10:58 +0000, Gabor Paller wrote:
>>> Well, I am not sure whether this discussion belongs to here or to the
>>> dev list, or maybe somewhere else but I still press on. :-)
>>
>> You may want to consider the sip-implementors list:
>> <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>>> What are these for? These seem to be proxied "hold" re-INVITE requests
>>> from the Nortel 6812 desk phone but where is the body.
>>
>> Many phones, when executing a transfer, first put the existing call on
>> hold.  That seems to be what is happening here.
>>
>> And you can send an INVITE with no SDP -- in that case, the recipient is
>> require to provide a SDP offer in the 2xx response, and the caller
>> provides a SDP answer in the ACK.  See RFC 3264 and RFC 4317.
>>
>>> The second, more interesting question for me, what do the parties in
>>> question hear when the transfer is in progress. My understanding is the
>>> both the source and target1 call legs are established, therefore 183 or
>>> 180 messages without SDP cannot be proxied in any way. Therefore if the
>>> REFER target is a deskphone (that often does not produce early media for
>>> ringing), no party in the call (Source, target1) will hear ringing while
>>> the transfer progresses.
>>
>> That is true.  However, the phone that is executing the REFER, since it
>> knows that a transfer is in progress, and sees the status messages from
>> the new dialog, can provide ringback to its user.  This is much the same
>> as the way that phones, when establishing a new dialog, provide ringback
>> to the caller upon receiving a 183 response from the callee.
>
>
> To add to Dale's observations above :
>
> If SipXbridge is handling the transfer ( i.e. fielding the REFER) AND
> managing MOH as well, the phone cannot provide ringback on blind
> transfer. Instead what SipXbridge does is to play Music On Hold (ie.
> signal the park server for MOH)  for the period of time that the phone
> is ringing so that you hear no "dead air" while that is happening.
>
> Ranga
>
>
>>
>> Dale
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> M. Ranganathan
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