On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Dale D <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Todd Hodgen wrote on Fri, 26 March 2010 11:46
> > How do you propose to handle this deletion when the
> > email server is down,
> > unless you also request in this simple change to
> > validate delivery also.
> > Otherwise, you lose your email server or services,
> > forwarded messages are
> > deleted and lost forever.
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> > I suspect it's more than just deleting after forwarding
> > if you want reliable
> > voicemail service.
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> Email systems are supposed to 1) attempt redelivery for at
> least 24 hours on the sending side (which I assume sendmail
> does in sipXecs) and 2) make provisions on the the receiving
> side for an alternate mail server to accept, store, and
> relay the message if the primary email server is down.  The
> combination of these two items can make it very reliable.  I
> would be happy to "just forward and delete" given the above
> two facts and this would be a simple option to add to
> sipXecs VM system.
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> But it is not that simple, it's just something that you want. Javamail for
sending the email does a simple SMTP session, which may give an "OK" that it
was accepted for delivery. Problem that's NOT been discussed is how to relay
that back to the VM system and tell it it's OK to delete the message.
Really, IMAP was meant to SYNC only, not be a one way street, because it's a
phone system and not an email relay system.

Why not just have voicemail for the account delete after one day? Why not
use the RSS feed coming in 4.2.

The need for an email only platform for voicemail was never put on the
roadmap. Surely if you want to submit a feature request it might be
considered for the version after 4.2.

As you think about your feature request, ensure that you voice your reasons
why this needs to be in place, giving examples helps.

>From a management perspective it needs to be deleted in a way that makes it
retrievable off of my sipx system.

Don't get me wrong, but you're late to this discussion (started over 2 years
ago for IMAP). The devs really need to work on the functionality that is
supposed to included in 4.2. It's sort of like changing the door height on a
house and the doorway has been framed, doors painted, hung and the locks put
on the door. It would be nice for them to be able to finish the job they
started instead of a redo every time someone wanted something different. If
that happens, it will stay under construction indefinitely.


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